Sony Announcement - Page 2

Hadrien · 05-15-2008, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

That's why I prefer the Mobi format, Hadrien. Multiple stores and multiple DRM providers.

And a real market this way... We need stores to compete for the best price and content.

Adobe is going in that direction too.

HarryT · 05-15-2008, 07:08 AM

Yes, I see ePub as very much of a potential successor to Mobi in terms of multiple device support, multiple stores, and multiple providers. It'll be interesting to see what happens to it. I think, though, it all depends on having a commonly-agreed DRM format. I know that ePub can support DRM - do you know if a standard for it exists yet?

(I know that most people think DRM is a Bad Thing, but we have to face the reality that most publishers aren't going to use a format without it.)

Hadrien · 05-15-2008, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Yes, I see ePub as very much of a potential successor to Mobi in terms of multiple device support, multiple stores, and multiple providers. It'll be interesting to see what happens to it. I think, though, it all depends on having a commonly-agreed DRM format. I know that ePub can support DRM - do you know if a standard for it exists yet?

(I know that most people think DRM is a Bad Thing, but we have to face the reality that most publishers aren't going to use a format without it.)

No interoperable DRM yet. DRM is the best way to earn a lot of money for such a company, that's why they'll fight to make sure that their DRM is used by everyone.

pilotbob · 05-15-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by astra

I wonder why people are getting so exciting about this DE issue.
It is just another DRM...

I will follow my MS lit path.

Not so much for the additional DRM format... for me it is about a reflowable PDF document viewer for the Sony.

However, being able to read library eBooks that use DE DRM would be nice. Libraries aren't supporting .LRX.

Although if it is only going to be for the 505 I'm out of luck in any case.

BOb

DaleDe · 05-15-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

Not so much for the additional DRM format... for me it is about a reflowable PDF document viewer for the Sony.

However, being able to read library eBooks that use DE DRM would be nice. Libraries aren't supporting .LRX.

Although if it is only going to be for the 505 I'm out of luck in any case.

BOb

Will LRX support time limited DRM? This would be a requirement for Library use.

Dale

pilotbob · 05-15-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaleDe

Will LRX support time limited DRM? This would be a requirement for Library use.

I know not. Has Sony released an API for that format?

I was actually talking about digital editions supported library formats.

BOb

Hadrien · 05-15-2008, 05:34 PM

Adobe's DRM can support time limited DRM for libraries. Overdrive announced that they will be using ePub earlier this year already.

tcv · 05-15-2008, 05:41 PM

He demoed the PDF reflow. How did that look? Anything you could see?

pilotbob · 05-15-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hadrien

Adobe's DRM can support time limited DRM for libraries. Overdrive announced that they will be using ePub earlier this year already.

Yep... I figured this out by running DE and looking at the "book info" on some of the PDFs I had and seeing this:

Permissions set by the publisher
Print Permissions : Allowed
Copy to Clipboard Permissions : Allowed
Document Expiration : Unlimited

BOb

DaleDe · 05-15-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

I know not. Has Sony released an API for that format?

I was actually talking about digital editions supported library formats.

BOb

Do you expect Digital editions to have an LRX extension? You were very specific in your statement that it was LRX you were talking about.

Dale

pilotbob · 05-15-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaleDe

Do you expect Digital editions to have an LRX extension? You were very specific in your statement that it was LRX you were talking about.

OK... lets read exactly what I wrote again:

However, being able to read library eBooks that use DE DRM would be nice. Libraries aren't supporting .LRX.

So, what I said was, I am hoping that having digital editions on the Sony reader would enable the use of library books. I did NOT say that I thought DE would support .LRX nor did I say that I thought libraries would use .LRX.

So, to restate...

It would be nice if when DE is supported on the Sony that it supports a DRM format which is used by libraries. I say this because I know that libraries do not use the .LRX format which is the only format that the Sony reader currently supports.

BOb

MerLock · 05-16-2008, 12:19 AM

It would be nice if the sony store sold .ePub format books once the sony reader supports it. Is there a list of sellers who sell .ePub format?

DaleDe · 05-16-2008, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

So, to restate...

It would be nice if when DE is supported on the Sony that it supports a DRM format which is used by libraries. I say this because I know that libraries do not use the .LRX format which is the only format that the Sony reader currently supports.

BOb

I understand now. I misread your original post. Thanks for the clarification.

NickHiatt243 · 05-29-2008, 10:38 PM

I'm pretty pissed at sony right now!

I paid some serious coin for a prs-500 because it claimed it could read pdfs....well we all know that was a big lie. Two months later they come out with a 505 spouting off that it will work with DE...whats it been 6 months or so since the 505 has been out and it still doesn't work with DE.

I was hoping they would update the firmware for the 500 so it could run DE too but it seems that is fading away. I'm not going to pay another $300 so I can have a reader that that can use DE. Many will probably say use this converter or do this to make it work. I have spent countless hours trying diffrent software and converts to no avail.

The sony bookstore is useless and their selection is pathetic. The reader could have been the next big thing if sony wouldn't of F'ed up and tried to go with their own retarded format that doesn't work with anything else. Mini Disk anyone????? I also have one of those too unfortunately.

I vow that if sony doesn't add support for the 500 I will never buy anything sony again. And my vaio computer,mini disk player, and reader will make some good target practice for my buddy's new AR-15

astrodad · 05-30-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NickHiatt243

I'm pretty pissed at sony right now!

Sheesh, you weren't kidding, you really are mad!

05-29-2008, 10:38 PM	#29
NickHiatt243 Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: prs-500	Up yours Sony!!!!!! I'm pretty pissed at sony right now! I paid some serious coin for a prs-500 because it claimed it could read pdfs....well we all know that was a big lie. Two months later they come out with a 505 spouting off that it will work with DE...whats it been 6 months or so since the 505 has been out and it still doesn't work with DE. I was hoping they would update the firmware for the 500 so it could run DE too but it seems that is fading away. I'm not going to pay another $300 so I can have a reader that that can use DE. Many will probably say use this converter or do this to make it work. I have spent countless hours trying diffrent software and converts to no avail. The sony bookstore is useless and their selection is pathetic. The reader could have been the next big thing if sony wouldn't of F'ed up and tried to go with their own retarded format that doesn't work with anything else. Mini Disk anyone????? I also have one of those too unfortunately. I vow that if sony doesn't add support for the 500 I will never buy anything sony again. And my vaio computer,mini disk player, and reader will make some good target practice for my buddy's new AR-15

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