Why didn't they use the pirate versions?

mr ploppy · 11-18-2011, 05:30 PM

http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-revi...owViewpoints=1

Apparently all his official ebooks are this bad. You would think they would at least proof the first chapter just to sucker people into paying £5 each for them.

Todd Young · 11-18-2011, 05:54 PM

They probably think people will put up with it.

xg4bx · 11-18-2011, 06:11 PM

the irony that pirates have more respect for the works than the people that theyre "stealing" it from is astounding. damn pirates putting out cleaned up and properly edited books. nuts to them!

DiapDealer · 11-18-2011, 07:42 PM

I certainly hope that reviewer left a similar note on the publisher's website (where it might actually do some good).

carpetmojo · 11-19-2011, 04:26 AM

Quite interesting really - it surely means no-one at the publishers actually read the thing before deciding to sell it.

Ah, the pressures of top management.

It's why they need to be paid so much, and have such nice pensions so they can recover from the strain of years of executive oversight.......

rant over....

morriss003 · 11-19-2011, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xg4bx

the irony that pirates have more respect for the works than the people that theyre "stealing" it from is astounding. damn pirates putting out cleaned up and properly edited books. nuts to them!

I keep expecting one of my free ebooks to show up edited and proofread. And maybe changed to reflect the tastes of the reader.

Serpentine · 11-19-2011, 09:45 AM

Reminds me of the initial release of Kim Stanley Robinson - Red Mars... urgh.

Rob Lister · 11-19-2011, 12:53 PM

From previous threads, the publisher's mindset is likely that once they decide to correct the pure [innocently-adulterated] OCR output, they're committed to a full re-edit of the entire work, and such an undertaking probably wouldn't be cost effective.

So I guess the honest solution is to buy the crappy OCR version and pirate the cleaned-up torrent version!

afa · 11-19-2011, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carpetmojo

Quite interesting really - it surely means no-one at the publishers actually read the thing before deciding to sell it.

Ah, the pressures of top management.

It's why they need to be paid so much, and have such nice pensions so they can recover from the strain of years of executive oversight.......

rant over....

Quote:

Originally Posted by loveposting

Very worthwhile really - it surely means no-one in the marketers really read the one thing before determining to market it.

Ah, the demands of top management.

It's why they should be compensated a lot, and also have such nice pensions to allow them to get over the stress of many years of executive oversight.......
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Anyone else getting a sense of déjà vu?

JD Gumby · 11-19-2011, 03:07 PM

Sadly, I think you'll find that most pirated versions these days are just de-DRM'd copies of the crappy OCR versions.

And that the supply of fan-created e-books that the big 3 sites don't carry (but which are still under copyright) has pretty much dried up.

DiapDealer · 11-19-2011, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afa

Anyone else getting a sense of déjà vu?

I did at first, but then I figured that loveposting was somehow trying to shift the blame to retailers rather than the publishers... where it belongs.

Note the "Marketers" vs "publishers"

Still pretty weird all in all, though.

Andrew H. · 11-19-2011, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xg4bx

the irony that pirates have more respect for the works than the people that theyre "stealing" it from is astounding. damn pirates putting out cleaned up and properly edited books. nuts to them!

Why put "stealing" in quotes. It's almost like you don't believe that the pirates are actually stealing.

carpetmojo · 11-19-2011, 07:21 PM

[QUOTE=DiapDealer;1840325]I did at first, but then I figured that loveposting was somehow trying to shift the blame to retailers rather than the publishers... where it belongs.

Note the "Marketers" vs "publishers"

Still pretty weird all in all, though.

[/QUOTE

I used "publishers" sort of generically, to include the money men. I agree the retailers are just as stupid, but in a different feeding chain ?

P'raps he/she needed an "either" after "market it"..?

Dunno 'bout the "one" though...

mr ploppy · 11-20-2011, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD Gumby

Sadly, I think you'll find that most pirated versions these days are just de-DRM'd copies of the crappy OCR versions.

And that the supply of fan-created e-books that the big 3 sites don't carry (but which are still under copyright) has pretty much dried up.

Unauthorised Harry Harrison ebooks have existed since the mid-90s

Hatgirl · 11-20-2011, 09:31 AM

According to this thread, this isn't the only Gollanz SF Gateway book to have OCR errors.

OCR Errors
The Stainless Steel Rat Wants You - Harry Harrison
A Stainless Steel Rat Is Born - Harry Harrison
The Shadow of Heaven- Bob Shaw
One Million Tomorrows - Bob Shaw's

OK
Night Walk - Bob Shaw's

Hmm. I am not impressed.

11-18-2011, 05:30 PM	#1
mr ploppy Feral Underclass Posts: 3,622 Karma: 26821535 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Yorkshire, tha noz Device: 2nd hand paperback	Why didn't they use the pirate versions? http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-revi...owViewpoints=1 Apparently all his official ebooks are this bad. You would think they would at least proof the first chapter just to sucker people into paying £5 each for them.

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Rob Lister Fanatic Posts: 532 Karma: 3293888 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Virginia Device: Nook Simple Touch	From previous threads, the publisher's mindset is likely that once they decide to correct the pure [innocently-adulterated] OCR output, they're committed to a full re-edit of the entire work, and such an undertaking probably wouldn't be cost effective. So I guess the honest solution is to buy the crappy OCR version and pirate the cleaned-up torrent version!

11-19-2011, 03:07 PM	#10
JD Gumby Cynical Old Curmudgeon Posts: 1,085 Karma: 8495696 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Halifax, Canada Device: Kobo Mini, Kobo Arc, HTC Desire C	Sadly, I think you'll find that most pirated versions these days are just de-DRM'd copies of the crappy OCR versions. And that the supply of fan-created e-books that the big 3 sites don't carry (but which are still under copyright) has pretty much dried up.

11-19-2011, 07:21 PM	#13
carpetmojo Wizard Posts: 3,117 Karma: 9269999 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: UK Device: Sony- T3, PRS650, 350, T1/2/3, Paperwhite, Fire 8.9,Samsung Tab S 10.5	[QUOTE=DiapDealer;1840325]I did at first, but then I figured that loveposting was somehow trying to shift the blame to retailers rather than the publishers... where it belongs. Note the "Marketers" vs "publishers" Still pretty weird all in all, though. [/QUOTE I used "publishers" sort of generically, to include the money men. I agree the retailers are just as stupid, but in a different feeding chain ? P'raps he/she needed an "either" after "market it"..? Dunno 'bout the "one" though...

11-20-2011, 09:31 AM	#15
Hatgirl Addict Posts: 296 Karma: 955301 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Sony PRS-300, Sony PRS-T2, Kindle (7th Gen)	According to this thread, this isn't the only Gollanz SF Gateway book to have OCR errors. OCR Errors The Stainless Steel Rat Wants You - Harry Harrison A Stainless Steel Rat Is Born - Harry Harrison The Shadow of Heaven- Bob Shaw One Million Tomorrows - Bob Shaw's OK Night Walk - Bob Shaw's Hmm. I am not impressed.