Having lots of trouble with calibre.

[GoldThreader]

Originally Posted by dwanthny

Good idea.

@GoldThreader I attached a copy of my library so you might be able to compare and perhaps see how we may be doing things differently.

thats exactly how i type it in and when done it sorts itself as 1 then instead of the number 2 the number 10 then 11 through 19 then 2 then 20 and so forth so i see no visible difference from your screen shot but the result is different when it sorts the library or send it to the nook

[GoldThreader]

Originally Posted by ElMiko

Are you typing the number in the title field? or in the series column?

I think people either aren't fulling understanding the nature of your problem or you aren't fully understanding the nature of their solution. This is one of the problems of using words to describe visual problems. A screenshot of your browser would probably help people understand your formatting conundrum far better.

I punctuated and corrected any spelling if your having any further problems understanding oh well not sure how to describe it better its good english and i dont speak any other languages just kinda lazy when it comes towards correcting my spelling and punctuated but i went out of my way to fix it

[GoldThreader]

Originally Posted by theducks

If the problem is the name used when sending to device:
Leading Zeros are important to prevent the 'ASCII Sort' you are seeing.

{series_index:0>2s}-{title}

the Green part pads the series with leading 0's (change the 2 to a 3 if you will have more than 99 in ANY series
(you can't change numbering plans in mid use without deleting ALL book in a series from the device and sending them fresh with the new template)
001 Foo
010 Foo
100 Foo
will be the order seen (if sorted by title on the dvice)

I havent tried putting it like 01 instead of just 1 yet but dwanthny seems to think that the calibre library doesnt do it at all if that fixes it great if not oh well but for his questions on it i number it 1 through whatever then it sorts itself incorrectly on both my device and the library

[ElMiko]

I know from experience that it can be frustrating when people don't understand what you're asking for, but I assure you, the senior members of this forum are genuinely eager to help. Show some patience... I promise they are showing you plenty. I'm baffled by your seeking help from people and then saying that if they don't understand, "Oh, well. I'm lazy." i.e. "Tough. Figure it out. And, by the way, help me now."

Also, I said nothing about your grammar, spelling, or punctuation. I'll repeat: sometimes it's hard to articulate visual problems in words -- regardless of one's linguistic abilities. That's why I suggested you might "help them help you" by providing a screenshot. I repeat that suggestion now.

As for this:

I havent tried putting it like 01 instead of just 1 yet but dwanthny seems to think that the calibre library doesnt do it at all...

I can guarantee you that backhanded snark is exactly NOT the way to encourage senior members like theducks and dwanthny to help you sort out your problem(s). You also seem to have misunderstood their posts (as I surmised in my first post). dwanthny is referring to the sorting characteristics of the series column in the calibre library. theducks is referring to the sorting characteristics of your device (reread the first sentence of that post).

[Starson17]

If he's getting the ASCII sort problem he describes in calibre, there are two likely ways. First, he may be putting the numbers into the title field. I suspect that's the problem, but it's already been mentioned. I've also seen numbers used in the name of the series. It's possible to get a series name with a number in brackets, followed by the series_index in brackets. If he's seeing two numbers, the first will sort ASCII and the second will sort numerically.

Finally, if he's doing comics inside ZIP or RAR, the filenames of images stored in the compressed file are often created without the leading zero, and that gives out of order display problems when reading the CBZ, or CBR.

Like others, I can't exactly figure out the problem here, but perhaps one of those comments will help.

[GoldThreader]

Originally Posted by ElMiko

I know from experience that it can be frustrating when people don't understand what you're asking for, but I assure you, the senior members of this forum are genuinely eager to help. Show some patience... I promise they are showing you plenty. I'm baffled by your seeking help from people and then saying that if they don't understand, "Oh, well. I'm lazy." i.e. "Tough. Figure it out. And, by the way, help me now."

Also, I said nothing about your grammar, spelling, or punctuation. I'll repeat: sometimes it's hard to articulate visual problems in words -- regardless of one's linguistic abilities. That's why I suggested you might "help them help you" by providing a screenshot. I repeat that suggestion now.

As for this:


I can guarantee you that backhanded snark is exactly NOT the way to encourage senior members like theducks and dwanthny to help you sort out your problem(s). You also seem to have misunderstood their posts (as I surmised in my first post). dwanthny is referring to the sorting characteristics of the series column in the calibre library. theducks is referring to the sorting characteristics of your device (reread the first sentence of that post).

backhanded snark? I was merely stating he had a difference in opinion but if you think otherwise I'm not going to get into an argument with you as far as a screenshot goes I would show one but that screenshot dwanthny showed is exactly how I number them if I need to I can take one but I think my explanation is good enough obviously there not numbered properly only further thing I could think of giving you would be a video of me actually setting up a series and them being out of order by result

[GoldThreader]

Originally Posted by Starson17

If he's getting the ASCII sort problem he describes in calibre, there are two likely ways. First, he may be putting the numbers into the title field. I suspect that's the problem, but it's already been mentioned. I've also seen numbers used in the name of the series. It's possible to get a series name with a number in brackets, followed by the series_index in brackets. If he's seeing two numbers, the first will sort ASCII and the second will sort numerically.

Finally, if he's doing comics inside ZIP or RAR, the filenames of images stored in the compressed file are often created without the leading zero, and that gives out of order display problems when reading the CBZ, or CBR.

Like others, I can't exactly figure out the problem here, but perhaps one of those comments will help.

Not sure what you mean by ASCII but if you ment leading 0 that the files be numbered like 01,02 and so forth no the individual images for each page are not named like that and would be ridiculous for me to go in and name each file that if it were just the volumes yeah I can do that ill try the numbering with 0's right now and see how that goes but if its possible that it will reorder the individual files within the zip because of this numbering issue then ill want an alternative program

[theducks]

@GoldThreader

Are we discussing Books out of order
or
Images (page files) within A BOOK, being out of order?

[GoldThreader]

Originally Posted by theducks

@GoldThreader

Are we discussing Books out of order
or
Images (page files) within A BOOK, being out of order?

Books being out of order but it seemed like he mentioned that calibre could get the order wrong for individual files within say a zip too depending how those were numbered and with like 30 or 40 image files within a chapter id rather not go in ad edit each file name

[theducks]

To sort the Series in the Library, click the column header (series), click again if you wish to reverse the order.

Screen shot please showing the wrong sort.


BTW
to sort in order, the Series name must be exactly the same.
foo
Foo
FOo

are all different series to Calibre

[GoldThreader]

ok well putting 0's in front of the 1 digits numbers worked for fixing the series but I still have the other problems and now a question so it seemed like Starson17 was saying that its possible for it to reorder the files in say a zip if there not individually numbered properly is this possible to happen? and any help on the other things?

[ElMiko]

EDIT:
To the moderator: Please delete this post. Upon consideration I realize it's not constructive, and that I've said as much as I could in this thread.

[GoldThreader]

Originally Posted by ElMiko

EDIT:
To the moderator: Please delete this post. Upon consideration I realize it's not constructive, and that I've said as much as I could in this thread.

umm ok? There's no reason to delete this thread I am seeking help or alternatives to this program. Just because you think I'm bashing you or something doesn't constitute a reason to close a thread and there's no reason to post a screen shot when someone posted one already in the way we needed also I said that changing the numbers worked for that specific problem I don't know what your beef with me is but I kindly ask you to refrain from posting such messages

[theducks]

Originally Posted by GoldThreader

umm ok? There's no reason to delete this thread I am seeking help or alternatives to this program. Just because you think I'm bashing you or something doesn't constitute a reason to close a thread and there's no reason to post a screen shot when someone posted one already in the way we needed also I said that changing the numbers worked for that specific problem I don't know what your beef with me is but I kindly ask you to refrain from posting such messages

Walt's Screen shot is not Your Screen Shot
Thread and Message are not the same thing.
If English is not your native tongue, I apologize, but we are working hard to help and you have failed to follow important advice (a picture of YOUR problem is worth 1000 words in any language).

It also appears you are working on 2 different problems. If so, they belong in 2 different threads (the second sounds like a Conversion Thread)

[DoctorOhh]

Originally Posted by GoldThreader

ok well putting 0's in front of the 1 digits numbers worked for fixing the series

This is interesting since it should not be possible to actually place a 01 as a series index within the calibre library view. If you are working in a series column and place a 01 in the index it will automatically be switched to just 1 after leaving the edit box. This is possible in a custom text based column which is why I asked you if you have created any custom columns.

Do me a favor and hover your mouse over the top of the series column that was sorting incorrectly and tell me exactly what the lookup/search name is, see attached for example.

Originally Posted by GoldThreader

umm ok? There's no reason to delete this thread I am seeking help or alternatives to this program.

He was not asking anyone to delete this thread. He posted to this thread and decided what he wrote was not constructive. He then went back and edited his post, removing the non-constructive language and asked a moderator to delete the post (because he does not have permission to delete the post) so it would not take up useless space in this thread.

However now that you have responded to a non-post and I have responded to you about the same non-post I think we'll leave it in so maybe others who have also been confused can gain clarity.