FIRE vs TABLET - Page 24

emilikins · 11-04-2011, 08:29 PM

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You want something you are going to be happy with not settled for. It doesn't hurt to splurge once in awhile.

That's kind of where I my reasoning is starting to go. Mike actually has complained that I don't splurge enough. And by god, he's going to Vegas with buddies in December and I'm not (it's either Vegas or our honeymoon, I choose honeymoon! He makes twice as much as I do, and he deserves a break after grad school and crazy insane work).

I didn't mind the weight of the Nook, I just didn't like the interface, but a lot of people love it, so I must be particular ;-) Plus, I don't want to be locked in and don't trust myself to root it right. The Flyer comes to $75 (with the taxes) than the old A1 price. Now the A1 is available for preorder on Amazon for $199 (16GB), no tax, free ship, etc. BUT, someone pointed out on the Lenovo forums that the Amazon one has a different model number than Lenovo's site listings, so they're wondering if these are remanufactured already or something. There's no info on that specific model.

Put in a pre-order, which I can easily cancel if I finally decide to do the Flyer all by myself or wait for Mike to do it for Christmas. Logic says wait for Christmas, but I've been waiting since the end of September for a replacement that's mine and not my work one.

The NookTab is intriguing, but only if B&N is more open, which I doubt. ::sigh::

Blossom · 11-05-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by emilikins

Now the A1 is available for preorder on Amazon for $199 (16GB), no tax, free ship, etc. BUT, someone pointed out on the Lenovo forums that the Amazon one has a different model number than Lenovo's site listings, so they're wondering if these are remanufactured already or something. There's no info on that specific model.

Put in a pre-order, which I can easily cancel if I finally decide to do the Flyer all by myself or wait for Mike to do it for Christmas. Logic says wait for Christmas, but I've been waiting since the end of September for a replacement that's mine and not my work one.

The NookTab is intriguing, but only if B&N is more open, which I doubt. ::sigh::

If it wasn't new then it would say so. It doesn't say when it will be released does it?

The good thing about Amazon is you have more control over the order.

emilikins · 11-05-2011, 05:45 PM

No release date yet. Played with the Flyer today, and I think that's the way I'm going. It's now a question of patience: wait for Christmas and let the fiance chip in, or get it now and finally have some closure on this, as well as get back to my ereading and personalizing my tablet. It'd be easier if I had the Kobo wifi to hold me over until Christmas (not the same, but a limp along), but that's wrapped up at the mother-in-law's house. Then I could take it to the gym now (it'll be my gym reader, Borders liquidation).

Hmm ... maybe I could make a deal with the fiance and his parents; I can have the Kobo back and wrap the HTC up?

The Flyer's also proven and has a new OS coming up, if I decide to go Honeycomb way, whereas the A1 has a lot of uncertainty going on. I'm hoping that when B&N goes all official Monday, that HTC will be motivated to drop the Flyer's price closer to the new Nook. If so, I'll grab it, and the fiance can just find me something else for Christmas ;-) Or get the pen if it drops down in price ;-)

Blossom · 11-05-2011, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by emilikins

No release date yet. Played with the Flyer today, and I think that's the way I'm going. It's now a question of patience: wait for Christmas and let the fiance chip in, or get it now and finally have some closure on this, as well as get back to my ereading and personalizing my tablet. It'd be easier if I had the Kobo wifi to hold me over until Christmas (not the same, but a limp along), but that's wrapped up at the mother-in-law's house. Then I could take it to the gym now (it'll be my gym reader, Borders liquidation).

Hmm ... maybe I could make a deal with the fiance and his parents; I can have the Kobo back and wrap the HTC up?

The Flyer's also proven and has a new OS coming up, if I decide to go Honeycomb way, whereas the A1 has a lot of uncertainty going on. I'm hoping that when B&N goes all official Monday, that HTC will be motivated to drop the Flyer's price closer to the new Nook. If so, I'll grab it, and the fiance can just find me something else for Christmas ;-) Or get the pen if it drops down in price ;-)

You know for $79 you can get a Kindle 4 with Pearl screen if you need something to tide you over.

It's better then the Kobo WiFi as it's has Pearl screen. The A1 looks like a good affordable choice.

emilikins · 11-06-2011, 10:12 AM

Nah, I don't want a Kindle or to be tied to Amazon, though I do agree the screen is nicer. The A1 kind of has a bad taste in my mouth now.

Maybe I should've kept my old order and it would be shipping out tomorrow, but judging by the forums and how Lenovo's behaved all year, I just don't trust them. Maybe the reviews will be decent, and then I'll buy. Certainly it's more affordable than slightly better spec'd tablets and I won't be doing any video games.

Oh, so I was in Best Buy yesterday oggling the goods, and this poor man was getting told misinformation by one of the employees. Did you know you can easily share between Nooks and Kindles?

That BB still had the NC for $249 and the employee clearly hadn't been informed about the new one, so when she walked away, I kind of butted in and asked the man the differences between Fire, Nooks, other tablets and asked what he wanted the device for. Hope I didn't overwhelm him

but I couldn't let someone be given incorrect information right in front of me.

The BBs here also do not have Vox demos up yet and don't seem to know anything about them, though you can order from the website.

Blossom · 11-06-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by emilikins

Nah, I don't want a Kindle or to be tied to Amazon, though I do agree the screen is nicer. The A1 kind of has a bad taste in my mouth now.

Maybe I should've kept my old order and it would be shipping out tomorrow, but judging by the forums and how Lenovo's behaved all year, I just don't trust them. Maybe the reviews will be decent, and then I'll buy. Certainly it's more affordable than slightly better spec'd tablets and I won't be doing any video games.

Oh, so I was in Best Buy yesterday oggling the goods, and this poor man was getting told misinformation by one of the employees. Did you know you can easily share between Nooks and Kindles?

That BB still had the NC for $249 and the employee clearly hadn't been informed about the new one, so when she walked away, I kind of butted in and asked the man the differences between Fire, Nooks, other tablets and asked what he wanted the device for. Hope I didn't overwhelm him

but I couldn't let someone be given incorrect information right in front of me.

The BBs here also do not have Vox demos up yet and don't seem to know anything about them, though you can order from the website.

I'd get the A1 instead of the KF if Amazon starts selling it. It seems really nice at a good price but I agree with the company not being straight on the release dates.

Don't get me started on Best Buy Helpers.

I am known not to be fond of them.

emilikins · 11-06-2011, 04:08 PM

Oh, I agree, the A1 should be nice if turns out how it should be. I'm just wary.

Ugh, Best Buy. I only use them as a petting zoo, but if I go with the Flyer, they are currently my cheapest choice (though they are all out of stock in a 200 mile radius from me, supposedly could order site to store in 3-5 days). I'm hoping that HTC will respond to the B&N announcement with a price drop on the HTC, but I rather doubt it. I can't believe how high they priced it to begin with. What were they thinking? It should be priced closer to the $249 Nook Tablet, going by specs but allowing that it comes with less violated Android, the Market, and decent cameras (for a tablet). Honestly, that could be worth $50, but to grab shoppers, they need to be closer to the NC and Fire, because most consumers are in the "ooh, shiny! ooh shiny price!" mentality. It's just the weirdly obsessed like us (MR) who start getting into the gritty details.

My favorite BB this month: "What's a Kobo?"

This from a "helper" standing in front the e-reader display, where there is a Kobo WiFi.

He was obviously not a golfer.

Blossom · 11-06-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by emilikins

My favorite BB this month: "What's a Kobo?"

This from a "helper" standing in front the e-reader display, where there is a Kobo WiFi.

He was obviously not a golfer.

SeaKing · 11-06-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blossom

I'd get the A1 instead of the KF if Amazon starts selling it. It seems really nice at a good price but I agree with the company not being straight on the release dates.

Don't get me started on Best Buy Helpers.

I am known not to be fond of them.

Amazon has it now at about $200 for the 16GB.

Blossom · 11-06-2011, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaKing

Amazon has it now at about $200 for the 16GB.

Yeah but it's not released yet. What I mean if they actually have it in stock I would buy it instead of the KF.

Blossom · 11-07-2011, 01:53 AM

Just saw the new Kindle Fire commercial on YouTube. I have to say it looks really nice to hold.

kennyc · 11-07-2011, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Blossom

Just saw the new Kindle Fire commercial on YouTube. I have to say it looks really nice to hold.

I still think this is the way you should go. We won't know about rooting etc, until 11/17

but I'm betting it's a sure thing.

Another one you might consider is the Vizio tablet it's dropped in price under $200 at Walmart and Costco. I'm seriously considering picking one up myself as I have a Vizio TV it might integrate well with.....
see this thread: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=155211

emilikins · 11-07-2011, 11:52 AM

Exactly, it's listed on Amazon, but there's that unknown release date. This morning I just got my cancellation confirmation from Lenovo. Took them awhile! I was actually expecting them to ship it! Then I'd basically say oh well and accept my fate.

The problem with the Vizio, as noted on MR and other tablet forums, is that Vizio named the internal SD card in a way that moving apps to the SD card pushes them not to your external card but this internal partition, so you're very limited on apps. No one's been able to root it to solve this problem yet. However, if you're not going to use many apps, the $189 at CostCo for a pretty decent budget tablet is a good idea. :-) I've thought about it, but I ran out of space so fast on my dead Coby and had memory problems and partition issues that I just want to avoid that again.

I'm thinking I want to get something that will last me 2-3 years at the very least. It irks me that only the bulky Thrive offers a replaceable battery. These devices would probably last longer if not for limited battery life.

Blossom · 11-07-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

I still think this is the way you should go. We won't know about rooting etc, until 11/17

but I'm betting it's a sure thing.

Another one you might consider is the Vizio tablet it's dropped in price under $200 at Walmart and Costco. I'm seriously considering picking one up myself as I have a Vizio TV it might integrate well with.....
see this thread: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=155211

I looked at it but it's huge not to mention no where locally has one. We don't have a Costco here and no Walmart here carries it. I checked. It does have good reviews so I say at that price if you don't mind a large size tablet it's a great deal.

Blossom · 11-07-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by emilikins

Exactly, it's listed on Amazon, but there's that unknown release date. This morning I just got my cancellation confirmation from Lenovo. Took them awhile! I was actually expecting them to ship it! Then I'd basically say oh well and accept my fate.

The problem with the Vizio, as noted on MR and other tablet forums, is that Vizio named the internal SD card in a way that moving apps to the SD card pushes them not to your external card but this internal partition, so you're very limited on apps. No one's been able to root it to solve this problem yet. However, if you're not going to use many apps, the $189 at CostCo for a pretty decent budget tablet is a good idea. :-) I've thought about it, but I ran out of space so fast on my dead Coby and had memory problems and partition issues that I just want to avoid that again.

I'm thinking I want to get something that will last me 2-3 years at the very least. It irks me that only the bulky Thrive offers a replaceable battery. These devices would probably last longer if not for limited battery life.

The 7022 did this as well. When you moved an app it went to the Internal SD Card. So you had like 256MB of space on the internal memory and 4GB on internal Card.

After reading up the issues on the K1 you might be relieved on missing out on the A1.

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11-05-2011, 05:45 PM	#348
emilikins Short One in the Stacks Posts: 142 Karma: 198348 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Midwest Device: HTC Flyer; Kobo WiFi	No release date yet. Played with the Flyer today, and I think that's the way I'm going. It's now a question of patience: wait for Christmas and let the fiance chip in, or get it now and finally have some closure on this, as well as get back to my ereading and personalizing my tablet. It'd be easier if I had the Kobo wifi to hold me over until Christmas (not the same, but a limp along), but that's wrapped up at the mother-in-law's house. Then I could take it to the gym now (it'll be my gym reader, Borders liquidation). Hmm ... maybe I could make a deal with the fiance and his parents; I can have the Kobo back and wrap the HTC up? The Flyer's also proven and has a new OS coming up, if I decide to go Honeycomb way, whereas the A1 has a lot of uncertainty going on. I'm hoping that when B&N goes all official Monday, that HTC will be motivated to drop the Flyer's price closer to the new Nook. If so, I'll grab it, and the fiance can just find me something else for Christmas ;-) Or get the pen if it drops down in price ;-)

11-06-2011, 10:12 AM	#350
emilikins Short One in the Stacks Posts: 142 Karma: 198348 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Midwest Device: HTC Flyer; Kobo WiFi	Nah, I don't want a Kindle or to be tied to Amazon, though I do agree the screen is nicer. The A1 kind of has a bad taste in my mouth now. Maybe I should've kept my old order and it would be shipping out tomorrow, but judging by the forums and how Lenovo's behaved all year, I just don't trust them. Maybe the reviews will be decent, and then I'll buy. Certainly it's more affordable than slightly better spec'd tablets and I won't be doing any video games. Oh, so I was in Best Buy yesterday oggling the goods, and this poor man was getting told misinformation by one of the employees. Did you know you can easily share between Nooks and Kindles? That BB still had the NC for $249 and the employee clearly hadn't been informed about the new one, so when she walked away, I kind of butted in and asked the man the differences between Fire, Nooks, other tablets and asked what he wanted the device for. Hope I didn't overwhelm him but I couldn't let someone be given incorrect information right in front of me. The BBs here also do not have Vox demos up yet and don't seem to know anything about them, though you can order from the website.

11-06-2011, 04:08 PM	#352
emilikins Short One in the Stacks Posts: 142 Karma: 198348 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Midwest Device: HTC Flyer; Kobo WiFi	Oh, I agree, the A1 should be nice if turns out how it should be. I'm just wary. Ugh, Best Buy. I only use them as a petting zoo, but if I go with the Flyer, they are currently my cheapest choice (though they are all out of stock in a 200 mile radius from me, supposedly could order site to store in 3-5 days). I'm hoping that HTC will respond to the B&N announcement with a price drop on the HTC, but I rather doubt it. I can't believe how high they priced it to begin with. What were they thinking? It should be priced closer to the $249 Nook Tablet, going by specs but allowing that it comes with less violated Android, the Market, and decent cameras (for a tablet). Honestly, that could be worth $50, but to grab shoppers, they need to be closer to the NC and Fire, because most consumers are in the "ooh, shiny! ooh shiny price!" mentality. It's just the weirdly obsessed like us (MR) who start getting into the gritty details. My favorite BB this month: "What's a Kobo?" This from a "helper" standing in front the e-reader display, where there is a Kobo WiFi. He was obviously not a golfer.

11-07-2011, 01:53 AM	#356
Blossom Treasure Seeker Posts: 18,708 Karma: 26026435 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: Kobo HD Glo, Kindles, Kindle Fires, Andriod Devices	Just saw the new Kindle Fire commercial on YouTube. I have to say it looks really nice to hold.

11-07-2011, 11:52 AM	#358
emilikins Short One in the Stacks Posts: 142 Karma: 198348 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Midwest Device: HTC Flyer; Kobo WiFi	Exactly, it's listed on Amazon, but there's that unknown release date. This morning I just got my cancellation confirmation from Lenovo. Took them awhile! I was actually expecting them to ship it! Then I'd basically say oh well and accept my fate. The problem with the Vizio, as noted on MR and other tablet forums, is that Vizio named the internal SD card in a way that moving apps to the SD card pushes them not to your external card but this internal partition, so you're very limited on apps. No one's been able to root it to solve this problem yet. However, if you're not going to use many apps, the $189 at CostCo for a pretty decent budget tablet is a good idea. :-) I've thought about it, but I ran out of space so fast on my dead Coby and had memory problems and partition issues that I just want to avoid that again. I'm thinking I want to get something that will last me 2-3 years at the very least. It irks me that only the bulky Thrive offers a replaceable battery. These devices would probably last longer if not for limited battery life.

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