FIRE vs TABLET

[JAcheson]

Originally Posted by Blossom

Why not just add the Market to it? You don't need to root it at all. Just install like 4 apks then reboot and you should have market access. Just google androidtablets.net and go to their Colby Generation 2 section. I've been reading up on all the quirks and issues of the 7022. So I am all ready for my tablet!

The 7022 has a 4:3 screen as well I believe.

The 7022 is a 16:9 widescreen.

I fiddled around with the 8125 some more last night. I had already sideloaded the Market using the usual methods, and I was able to download apps from it and the Applib, but the flaky wifi made it very unreliable.

The screen size works well for displaying comic books, though the Droid Comic Reader app left a bit to be desired.

I finally gave up on trying to get it to work, and shipped it back to the merchant over lunch today. Hopefully I will get a working model back from them, or my money back.

Edit: I will say one thing: I like the Android operating system better the more I use it.

[Blossom]

Originally Posted by JAcheson

The 7022 is a 16:9 widescreen.

I fiddled around with the 8125 some more last night. I had already sideloaded the Market using the usual methods, and I was able to download apps from it and the Applib, but the flaky wifi made it very unreliable.

The screen size works well for displaying comic books, though the Droid Comic Reader app left a bit to be desired.

I finally gave up on trying to get it to work, and shipped it back to the merchant over lunch today. Hopefully I will get a working model back from them, or my money back.

Edit: I will say one thing: I like the Android operating system better the more I use it.

Android is great! It has some limitations but there is an app for everything it seems.

[emilikins]

Posted by Blossom : I do owe you thanks for letting me know Coby is a good brand when it comes to tablets.

It was good - until it pooped out. I was eyeballing the 7022, but my fiance would freak if I bought another Coby. *sigh* But I think as far as budgets go, it's one of the better ones, and as has been pointed out, it has a pretty good developer community providing workarounds.

[pilotbob]

Originally Posted by slkissinger

WT Sharpe: literally last week my brother had a similar issue. It was with a new laptop vs. other devices connecting to his home wireless router. the new thing would connect for a few minutes, then not. But other devices were rock solid. He returned that particular laptop and got a completely different one (different manufacturer even), and the same issue.

Replaced the router, and everything was fine. All I'm saying is... can't hurt to replace your wireless router. I think I've gone through at least 3 over the years. They just go flakey over time (at least for me, and apparently, my brother)

A firmware update for the router first might be a better option than buying a new one.

BOb

[emilikins]

Looks like Coby's changing up their form factor a little bit 7127. I was honestly tempted (different chip than my dead 7024), but it's still the lower screen resolution. If it was the 1024x600, I'd probably do it and cancel the Vox (faster processor), but I'm rather set on the screen resolution. The Galaxy has spoiled me!

Still not sure if I'll regret the Vox or not. Other Kobo owners have said that their devices are works in progress, as in, Kobo continuously develops and updates them. Can't update the processor, but they can fine tune firmware and whatnot. I feel better about the $189 (no tax!) price vs. Lenovo's $245 (after tax), but I feel the Ideapad is higher quality and has more capabilities, but Lenovo can't give me a straight answer, and at least Kobo seems a little more upfront about what they do and don't offer.

Fiance offered an interesting proposal, that I cancel the Vox, too, and let him contribute to the cost of the Samsung 7 or HTC Flyer or something for Christmas, but I still can't justify the cost of those.

Gah, why is this agony? Our answers must think we're just silly, silly people.

[WT Sharpe]

Originally Posted by slkissinger

WT Sharpe: literally last week my brother had a similar issue. It was with a new laptop vs. other devices connecting to his home wireless router. the new thing would connect for a few minutes, then not. But other devices were rock solid. He returned that particular laptop and got a completely different one (different manufacturer even), and the same issue.

Replaced the router, and everything was fine. All I'm saying is... can't hurt to replace your wireless router. I think I've gone through at least 3 over the years. They just go flakey over time (at least for me, and apparently, my brother)

Originally Posted by pilotbob

A firmware update for the router first might be a better option than buying a new one.

BOb

Oddly enough, my K-3's WiFi has been working perfectly since I last complained about it. Maybe it just needed a bit of public shaming.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

Oddly enough, my K-3's WiFi has been working perfectly since I last complained about it. Maybe it just needed a bit of public shaming.

That works! I use it all the time on my electronics!

[Blossom]

Originally Posted by kennyc

That works! I use it all the time on my electronics!

It happens to me too! As soon as I complain about a device not working right I either figure out what's wrong or it suddenly works right.

[Jabby]

Originally Posted by Blossom

Sounds low end but it will be interesting to see more on it. I am getting the 7022 next week. I keep hoping the sale will last till then. $144 is a great price!

More 7022 info.

My 7022 arrived yesterday and have been comparing it to my 7024. One thing that surprised my was the speed comparisons. The 7024 is noticeably faster. I thought at first that it must have to do with the added overhead of OS2.3 vs 2.2 but it turned out to be the difference in processors. The 7024 is using the Samsung S5PV210 Cortex A8 while the 7022 is using the Telechip TCC8803 Cortex A8.

The 7022's capacitive screen is two touch and is not very responsive. The capacitive screen is also a finger print magnet. I use a capacitive stylus on my Toshiba Thrive to keep finger prints down but the 7022 won't respond to the stylus (two different makes). I can't see a bit of difference between the two as far as quality of the display.

The 7022 has also lost the volume rocker switch and the stereo speakers. It is also 10 grams heavier (as weighed on my wife's trusty kitchen scales).

The build qualities are comparable but the bezel arrangement on the 7024 are easier for me to hang on to. They are slightly raised on the 7024 but are flush on the 7022.

Maybe it's just me but I prefer the 7024. It could be I'm biased because I am used to it. Who knows?

Regards - John

[Jabby]

Originally Posted by Jabby

The 7022's capacitive screen is two touch and is not very responsive. The capacitive screen is also a finger print magnet. I use a capacitive stylus on my Toshiba Thrive to keep finger prints down but the 7022 won't respond to the stylus (two different makes). I can't see a bit of difference between the two as far as quality of the display.

***Note***
I dropped the 7022 on a rug this morning and my screen now responds better to my finger touches. I am going to check to see if I might have a defective tablet.

"Dropkick Maintenance"?

Regards - John

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

A firmware update for the router first might be a better option than buying a new one.

BOb

Yes! Always make sure you've got the latest updates. So many bugs slip into things these days that updates are almost continuous!

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by Jabby

***Note***
I dropped the 7022 on a rug this morning and my screen now responds better to my finger touches. I am going to check to see if I might have a defective tablet.

"Dropkick Maintenance"?

Regards - John

I've heard of slapping it on the side, but....

[emilikins]

My 7022 arrived yesterday and have been comparing it to my 7024. One thing that surprised my was the speed comparisons. The 7024 is noticeably faster. I thought at first that it must have to do with the added overhead of OS2.3 vs 2.2 but it turned out to be the difference in processors. The 7024 is using the Samsung S5PV210 Cortex A8 while the 7022 is using the Telechip TCC8803 Cortex A8.

Interesting. My dead and gone 7024 was fairly zippy. Didn't have problems with YouTube, apps loaded fairly quick, lags came from too many apps open at once or loading a graphics heavy website. There were a couple of crashes, but they were pretty far in between.

The 7022's capacitive screen is two touch and is not very responsive. The capacitive screen is also a finger print magnet. I use a capacitive stylus on my Toshiba Thrive to keep finger prints down but the 7022 won't respond to the stylus (two different makes). I can't see a bit of difference between the two as far as quality of the display.

Yep, each screen has its own little stylus. I rarely used the stylus on the 7024; fingernails worked fine, and even a heavy fingertip. I hadn't really thought much about some capacitive screens being two-touch vs. multi. I haven't encountered a two-touch one yet. Does it seem to have any benefit over the resistive? Other than maybe driving a few more sales? I wonder if this is the same type of screen that's on the Vox. People have complained it doesn't really respond to swipes, more taps and short swipes. But it does pinch and zoom, which only needs two fingers ...

I was looking at the Vizio 8 today, then read that it won't actually let you put apps on your SD card, so you're stuck with whatever is left on the 4gb drive after factory settings. Boo.

[Blossom]

Originally Posted by Jabby

***Note***
I dropped the 7022 on a rug this morning and my screen now responds better to my finger touches. I am going to check to see if I might have a defective tablet.

"Dropkick Maintenance"?

Regards - John

The sale at Toys R US is over I will get it from Amazon which I rather deal with anyway. It's $175 there. Still a good price for the tablet I think.

[emilikins]

I will get it from Amazon which I rather deal with anyway.

Yeah, despite being "against" the Fire, I cannot fault Amazon's customer service. They seem to realize that keeping the customer happy will translate into more purchases down the road, so why ignore you or treat you like scum? Both times I've called customer support, I got put through right away and although the reps both had heavy accents, they were pleasant and efficient. I feel a little bad my tablet won't be coming from them (not on their site) since fully refunded my 7024, but I've got several seasons of Supernatural to buy, so they'll get my money back. ;-)