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Nyssa · 10-03-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MichelRenaud

The device can read other books - fact. I've bought books on Smashwords and read them on my Kindle. I also got some free books from other third-parties. Read them on my Kindle.

The store may be "Kindle exclusive", but it's not even tied to the device: There are Kindle apps for PC, Mac, iPad, iPod Touch/iPhone, etc. Also I'm pretty sure just about everything you can buy on the Kindle store, you can buy at other e-book stores.

There's no monopoly, no matter how you try to spin it.

When making the same point on another thread, someone chose to point out that there are now "Kindle exclusive" e-books. Of course they also chose to ignore that the paper books were available at multiple stores, despite my linking to them.

HarryT · 10-03-2011, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyssa

When making the same point on another thread, someone chose to point out that there are now "Kindle exclusive" e-books.

Just as there are "B&N exclusive" eBooks, Smashwords-exclusive eBooks, etc. etc. It's the free choice of the author who they choose to sell their work through.

emalvick · 10-04-2011, 04:52 PM

I'm fairly confident if Amazon was a monopoly they would have been shut down already or at least sued many times.

If proprietary meant monopoly than we'd have many other companies shut down as well and many electronics companies would qualify as monopolies.

Heck, thinking of that AZW argument, isn't an AZW file really just a mobi file with a different extension? It's not even really proprietary. The DRM may be proprietary, but that could be put on top of a plain mobi file anyway.

It makes me wonder (and probably simple enough to check) whether I could rename a AZW with DRM to .mobi and have my Kindle still read it (assuming I'm on the correct device and it is my copy to begin with). Conversely could one rename a .mobi file with a .azw extension and have it work.

Ah well... considering all these Linux distributions and their versions, you'd think the Linux people were a monopoly... Look at all the devices they have their fingers in

HarryT · 10-05-2011, 01:43 AM

Your logic slightly eludes me. Amazon owns Mobipocket, so in what way does the fact that AZW files are renamed Mobi files (which they are) make them less proprietary?

emalvick · 10-05-2011, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Your logic slightly eludes me. Amazon owns Mobipocket, so in what way does the fact that AZW files are renamed Mobi files (which they are) make them less proprietary?

It is less proprietary in the sense that Mobi file are not fixed to Amazon. The only thing special about AZW (as far as I can tell) is the DRM not the book content itself. In other words, they really arn't different formats but at the most a variant of the same format (if that can even be said).

Remember that while Amazon might own Mobipocket, there are many sellers out there selling Mobi files just as there were before Amazon purchased them (Smashwords being one example). If Amazon was being monopolistic, they'd probably charge a fee for use of the format; I'm guessing they don't given the free books being offered on other websites.

Anyway, it's just a minor thing that I suppose depends on how you look at it. Heck one could argue EPUB is proprietary to Adobe and on from there... There are probably more proprietary formats than not in the commercial world anyway.

The Terminator · 10-05-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Font

What about the alternative operating system, you have not said about that?

I really hope you're kidding with this post, some other readers include : The Nook Simple touch Reader by B&N, The Sony reader line-up, The Kobo Touch reader, and those are just three of the most popular readers out there, there is quite a few more.

Do some research before posting silly stuff.

Zeebra · 10-05-2011, 07:20 PM

The original poster is obviously trolling to get a reaction. I'm not sure why they are not reprimanded in some way. This thread is going nowhere.

Daithi · 10-08-2011, 12:37 PM

I'm with Font on this one.

Amazon is a monopoly because they sell lots of stuff and lots of people buy from them. Their competitors are at a disadvantage because they don't have as many customers and don't make as much money. Plus if you buy a Kindle book from Amazon you can't read it on a Nook, so Amazon has monopoly. Before any one says it, "You can't buy a book from Barnes & Noble and read it on your Kindle either." Well, this is also Amazon's fault and once again proves they have a monopoly. The Kindle has 3G access. Monopoly. The Kindle has its own book store. Monopoly. There is only one river in the world called the Amazon River. Monopoly.

In regards to the Operating System issue. I think Font is right there too, BUT even if Harry is right it just proves that Amazon has a monopoly.

Just the facts people. Just the facts.

Daveoc64 · 10-08-2011, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Daithi

I'm with Font on this one.

Amazon is a monopoly because they sell lots of stuff and lots of people buy from them. Their competitors are at a disadvantage because they don't have as many customers and don't make as much money. Plus if you buy a Kindle book from Amazon you can't read it on a Nook, so Amazon has monopoly. Before any one says it, "You can't buy a book from Barnes & Noble and read it on your Kindle either." Well, this is also Amazon's fault and once again proves they have a monopoly. The Kindle has 3G access. Monopoly. The Kindle has its own book store. Monopoly. There is only one river in the world called the Amazon River. Monopoly.

In regards to the Operating System issue. I think Font is right there too, BUT even if Harry is right it just proves that Amazon has a monopoly.

Just the facts people. Just the facts.

I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but I sincerely hope you are!

jgaiser · 10-08-2011, 12:55 PM

Daithi seriously needs to add smileys to his posts....

kennyc · 10-08-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron.

Threads like this are the best thing on mobileread

Sorry I'm fresh out of karma, I'll have to owe you!

kennyc · 10-08-2011, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daithi

I'm with Font on this one.

Amazon is a monopoly because they sell lots of stuff and lots of people buy from them. Their competitors are at a disadvantage because they don't have as many customers and don't make as much money. Plus if you buy a Kindle book from Amazon you can't read it on a Nook, so Amazon has monopoly. Before any one says it, "You can't buy a book from Barnes & Noble and read it on your Kindle either." Well, this is also Amazon's fault and once again proves they have a monopoly. The Kindle has 3G access. Monopoly. The Kindle has its own book store. Monopoly. There is only one river in the world called the Amazon River. Monopoly.

In regards to the Operating System issue. I think Font is right there too, BUT even if Harry is right it just proves that Amazon has a monopoly.

Just the facts people. Just the facts.

What a great thread!

Nyssa · 10-08-2011, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daithi

I'm with Font on this one.

Amazon is a monopoly because they sell lots of stuff and lots of people buy from them. Their competitors are at a disadvantage because they don't have as many customers and don't make as much money. Plus if you buy a Kindle book from Amazon you can't read it on a Nook, so Amazon has monopoly. Before any one says it, "You can't buy a book from Barnes & Noble and read it on your Kindle either." Well, this is also Amazon's fault and once again proves they have a monopoly. The Kindle has 3G access. Monopoly. The Kindle has its own book store. Monopoly. There is only one river in the world called the Amazon River. Monopoly.

In regards to the Operating System issue. I think Font is right there too, BUT even if Harry is right it just proves that Amazon has a monopoly.

Just the facts people. Just the facts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgaiser

Daithi seriously needs to add smileys to his posts....

I think the "seriousness"

of this post would have been lost with the inclusion of smilies, so its up to us to provide them for Daithi.

kennyc · 10-08-2011, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyssa

...

I think the "seriousness"

of this post would have been lost with the inclusion of smilies, so its up to us to provide them for Daithi.

Either that or he's somehow lost his head in a book!

Daithi · 10-08-2011, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgaiser

Daithi seriously needs to add smileys to his posts....

Sorry jgaiser, but this is how my family jokes with each other. However, I know where you are coming from, half the time I don't even realize my kids are making fun of me.

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10-04-2011, 04:52 PM	#78
emalvick Groupie Posts: 166 Karma: 5358 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Davis, CA Device: Kindle 3	I'm fairly confident if Amazon was a monopoly they would have been shut down already or at least sued many times. If proprietary meant monopoly than we'd have many other companies shut down as well and many electronics companies would qualify as monopolies. Heck, thinking of that AZW argument, isn't an AZW file really just a mobi file with a different extension? It's not even really proprietary. The DRM may be proprietary, but that could be put on top of a plain mobi file anyway. It makes me wonder (and probably simple enough to check) whether I could rename a AZW with DRM to .mobi and have my Kindle still read it (assuming I'm on the correct device and it is my copy to begin with). Conversely could one rename a .mobi file with a .azw extension and have it work. Ah well... considering all these Linux distributions and their versions, you'd think the Linux people were a monopoly... Look at all the devices they have their fingers in

10-05-2011, 01:43 AM	#79
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,557 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Your logic slightly eludes me. Amazon owns Mobipocket, so in what way does the fact that AZW files are renamed Mobi files (which they are) make them less proprietary?

10-05-2011, 07:20 PM	#82
Zeebra Evangelist Posts: 463 Karma: 956567 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Toronto, Canada Device: Kindle Oasis 3	The original poster is obviously trolling to get a reaction. I'm not sure why they are not reprimanded in some way. This thread is going nowhere.

10-08-2011, 12:37 PM	#83
Daithi Publishers are evil! Posts: 2,418 Karma: 36205264 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rhode Island Device: Various Kindles	I'm with Font on this one. Amazon is a monopoly because they sell lots of stuff and lots of people buy from them. Their competitors are at a disadvantage because they don't have as many customers and don't make as much money. Plus if you buy a Kindle book from Amazon you can't read it on a Nook, so Amazon has monopoly. Before any one says it, "You can't buy a book from Barnes & Noble and read it on your Kindle either." Well, this is also Amazon's fault and once again proves they have a monopoly. The Kindle has 3G access. Monopoly. The Kindle has its own book store. Monopoly. There is only one river in the world called the Amazon River. Monopoly. In regards to the Operating System issue. I think Font is right there too, BUT even if Harry is right it just proves that Amazon has a monopoly. Just the facts people. Just the facts.

10-08-2011, 12:55 PM	#85
jgaiser Omnivorous Posts: 3,283 Karma: 27978909 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rural NW Oregon Device: Kindle Voyage, Kindle Fire HD, Kindle 3, KPW1	Daithi seriously needs to add smileys to his posts....