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Old 10-02-2011, 09:42 PM   #481
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Sorry thought you were talking about the Kindle (4/2011).

Yes the Touch is arguably better hardware (better processor at least, and software upgrades you mention). Don't know if I agree about buttons being obsolete (even if I do use a touch based eReader). More a preference thing.
Agree it's mostly a preference thing but it's seems if you look at newest stuff like the Ipad or tablets there is no keyboard or barely buttons so they are on their way out it seems though I can't imagine typing an essay or novel on one.

However it seems the new Touch 3G will have a downside that my K3 with 3G doesn't have. No 3G web browsing other then Amazon's store and Wikipedia.
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:55 PM   #482
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Yeah I think it is all still pending. ie Kobo's are not really being sold in AU atm period.
Correct. Collins and borders online are gearing up for the KT, released this month, all things being equal.
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:57 PM   #483
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Agree it's mostly a preference thing but it's seems if you look at newest stuff like the Ipad or tablets there is no keyboard or barely buttons so they are on their way out it seems though I can't imagine typing an essay or novel on one.

However it seems the new Touch 3G will have a downside that my K3 with 3G doesn't have. No 3G web browsing other then Amazon's store and Wikipedia.
Well considering the button less interface segment is absolutely dwarfed by those products with buttons (mobile phones, PC's, Notebooks etc) worldwide sales, I don't foresee buttons as a input going away nor do I think taping a piece of glass/plastic is all that grand as a serious input interface. Pros and Cons.

I can appreciate those who would still prefer the Kindle Touch to have bezel buttons. Would have been an easy addition, and they could have just allowed you to disable them in software if you preferred touch only. Seemed a little unthoughtful after conditioning their users to one approach.
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LOL! Yes, they are to be blamed for a lot... like me wanting an Iphone. I held out a looong time but I'm going to cave soon. I love touch screen for a phone, but just not an ereader, don't want the fingerprints on my reading screen.
You know you want an iphone.....

Actually you would be quite surprised as I was with my PRS-650, which has a matt screen and thus finger marks are almost impossible to see. I keep trying to swipe my PRS-300 and Kobo 1 when turning pages now
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You know you want an iphone.....

Actually you would be quite surprised as I was with my PRS-650, which has a matt screen and thus finger marks are almost impossible to see. I keep trying to swipe my PRS-300 and Kobo 1 when turning pages now
I want an iPhone, too, but I don't know if I can justify the price to myself (I will be moving too often to get a long term phone plan to subsidize the cost). This is one of the few situations in which my husband is actually urging me to purchase a new tech item, however, as he knows that he will inherit it at some point.

I never see fingerprints on my PRS-350, either; the matte screen hides them quite well. I do see fingerprints on the my phone, tablets and computer screen, however.
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... and computer screen, however.
You touch your computer screen?

... you'd want to wait a couple of weeks if after an iPhone, new one due any day now. You could even pick up the older model cheap I'm sure.
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You touch your computer screen?
You would be surprised how many people do, especially those standing behind you insisting they need to touch the screen whilst pointing to something on it.
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..to?
To what one is most attracted to or most needs in a reader. For some, this is new Kindle can be consider better than the old one.
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However it seems the new Touch 3G will have a downside that my K3 with 3G doesn't have. No 3G web browsing other then Amazon's store and Wikipedia.
Is that confirmed? I haven't heard that before.
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Is that confirmed? I haven't heard that before.
Yes on the Amazon Kindle Forum there is an official announcement.

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To what one is most attracted to or most needs in a reader. For some, this is new Kindle can be consider better than the old one.
The statement was that the new Kindles hardware was better, I was just pointing out that such a blanket statement is unhelpful as the new Kindle (4, 2011, Non-Touch whatever we call it) is not necessarily "better" than the Kindle 3 (now Keyboard) in the hardware deparment (gaining in some areas, loosing in others) and that to present it as such was somewhat misleading, regardless of your definition of better or not.

Holistically there is obviously also software improvement considerations and other things as trivial as the Kindle 3/Keyboard including and AC Adaptor where the Kindle (4) does not.
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... you'd want to wait a couple of weeks if after an iPhone, new one due any day now. You could even pick up the older model cheap I'm sure.
Yes, I've been waiting for the new iPhone to be announced before making a decision.

I don't consciously touch my computer screen, but it always seems to be full of smudges!
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Interesting devices! Pretty great price on the Fire as well. Well done by Amazon, though I think the Nook STR is far superior to the Kindle Touch I will still say it looks like a decent device.
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Interesting devices! Pretty great price on the Fire as well. Well done by Amazon, though I think the Nook STR is far superior to the Kindle Touch I will still say it looks like a decent device.
If you don't mind my asking, why is the Nook STR so superior to the Kindle Touch? They seem pretty similar to me.
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If you don't mind my asking, why is the Nook STR so superior to the Kindle Touch? They seem pretty similar to me.
I was about to ask the same thing. I can understand a preference for physical page turn buttons, but what else makes it superior, besides the typical "it can read .epubs" response.
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