Just ordered Kindle Fire - Page 4

tlc · 09-30-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SCION

It's $200. No one is being taken advantage of. There are plenty of other "open" options at much higher price points.

$200 plus your recurring Cloud storage fees.

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Originally Posted by carld

Looking at Amazon's App Market I see a bunch of ebook readers, including Aldiko (ePub, including ADE), Adobe, and Kobo. The only thing I see missing that could be supported is B&N, and well .. it IS Amazon's biggest ebook rival. I don't think it's too badly walled in.

If you're only using it as a reader, fine. But assuming we can side load whatever we want, 8GB just isn't a lot of space for content (Video + Music + Apps + Photos + Books).

I buy MP3s and ebooks from amazon anyway. I don't mind that wall as much as I mind paying to put my existing media in their cloud.

Scarpad · 09-30-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Blossom

It says it supports the same books as the normal Kindles like mobi/prc, PDF. doc...etc so I would guess yes Sideloading books will work. Don't know about Sideloading apps though. Just have to wait and see.

And what about Sideloading Music and Videos, although there's not alot of space to do that.

monkeyluis · 09-30-2011, 10:54 AM

I'd buy one of these if I didn't already own 3 iPads. But I am getting the kindle touch to "upgrade" my K3.

DaleDe · 09-30-2011, 11:02 AM

There is now a wiki page on the Kindle Fire. It contains stuff from the Amazon site. Please improve it when you know more real data, such as which version of Android they will support.

Dale

SCION · 09-30-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tlc

$200 plus your recurring Cloud storage fees.
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You're making too much out of it for the average person who'd be interested in the device. You get 5GB of cloud storage at no charge.

If folks need an SD card slot and want "open" this isn't the device for them. Nothing wrong with that.

kennyc · 09-30-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilbo1967

I've always loved the way people equate "best selling " with "best ". The best selling newspaper in the UK is the Sun - it's shite. The most watched TV programs are invariably shite. By that logic, either Dan Brown or JK Rowling are the best living writers. Best selling is not a measure of quality.

Boy, you nailed that one.

kennyc · 09-30-2011, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Donnageddon

You might want to check the link you just posted, Harry. Nothing is settled on that issue just yet.

But I will be happy to be wrong. Just like a certain person who confidently predicted there would be no new eink kindles announced on Wed.

Jean · 09-30-2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarpad

And what about Sideloading Music and Videos, although there's not alot of space to do that.

An article in yesterday's Seattle Times featured a Q&A article with Kindle VP Dave Limp -

one of the questions asked was "Can you play media purchased elsewhere on the Fire?"
answer" "Sure, I uploaded my entire iTunes library. It's got to be DRM free... I moved it to the cloud and then it's all visible on the device."

another question was "Can you load your own files through the USB?"
answer "Yes, you can connect it to a PC. We don't think people are going to do it very often; we haven't optimized for that use. But if you plug it into a PC or Mac, folders will show up and you can drag files onto it."

drd1135 · 09-30-2011, 02:06 PM

The Nook Color is the hackable blank slate. The Fire (and maybe the coming Nook tablet) are for those many, many folks who want to the thing to work when it shows up. The Fire is aimed at providing the most popular services for a good price, not to be the best Android tablet. Like the Kindle, Amazon is shooting to provide a carefully chosen set of capabilities at a good price and do them very well. Since this is a tablet, this is a much larger set of capabilities. We'll see how well Amazon chose. As for being locked in, most people are locked in now and don't even think about it. The techies are not the target for the Fire.

marcosv · 09-30-2011, 02:09 PM

FWIW, I just ordered the Kindle Fire. I know it'll probably very difficult to root it and get around its bootloader to install other Android OS, but, it is just $200 and will do 80 to 90% what I do with my 10" Android tablet today.

No doubt there will be bigger tablets with more features coming out next year, but, at $200 for a nice IPS screen, decent performance, and it will do the media content stuff well right now, I'm good to go.

If I already bought an iPad, I can see why you wouldn't buy this since the iPad should do everything that the Kindle Fire can do --- unless you want another 7" reader for just $200.

Also, it is backed by Amazon and will get a lot of love from Amazon for a while as Amazon pushes it's strategy. I expect more developers will put their apps on the Amazon store because of the Kindle Fire --- provided that Amazon picked a recent enough version of the Android OS to make development economical.

gweminence · 09-30-2011, 02:12 PM

I'd be shocked if it isn't rooted within 48 hours

kennyc · 09-30-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by marcosv

... should do everything that the Kindle Fire can do --- unless you want another 7" reader for just $200.

......

That was my reason.

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Originally Posted by gweminence

I'd be shocked if it isn't rooted within 48 hours

me too, and most likely before the first delivery.

carld · 09-30-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tlc

$200 plus your recurring Cloud storage fees.

If you're only using it as a reader, fine. But assuming we can side load whatever we want, 8GB just isn't a lot of space for content (Video + Music + Apps + Photos + Books).

Opinions vary on that. It seems Amazon's intention is for all that to go to the cloud. But, I was specifically replying to the assertion that, based on ebook sources, the Fire is more locked down than the Ipad. Other than not having B&N's nook app (for whatever reason) it really isn't. The Fire will read ePubs, PDFs, Kobo and Kindle ebooks, and that covers the vast majority of the market.

marcosv · 09-30-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gweminence

I'd be shocked if it isn't rooted within 48 hours

If any device could be rooted and have its bootloader figured out, it'll be the Kindle Fire. It should also be very popular which means the hackers will stick with it a lot longer than some of the other devices.

But, if I counted on that happening, I wouldn't buy the Fire today and would wait for the hacks to be done.

In order to rationalize pulling the trigger today, I had to convince myself that even if the Kindle Fire isn't ever hacked, it's still worth it.

Blossom · 09-30-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarpad

And what about Sideloading Music and Videos, although there's not alot of space to do that.

There's no need to sideload music. You just upload it to your cloud Player. The Cloud player when in use downloads the mp3 to your tablet or phone. It doesn't have to be Amazon purchase music.

I have no idea on videos. We will have to wait and see.

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09-30-2011, 10:54 AM	#48
monkeyluis Banned Posts: 725 Karma: 656644 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Central Florida Device: iPad "3", Kindle Touch, Kindle Fire, iPhone 4S	I'd buy one of these if I didn't already own 3 iPads. But I am getting the kindle touch to "upgrade" my K3.

09-30-2011, 11:02 AM	#49
DaleDe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,470 Karma: 13095790 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Grass Valley, CA Device: EB 1150, EZ Reader, Literati, iPad 2 & Air 2, iPhone 7	There is now a wiki page on the Kindle Fire. It contains stuff from the Amazon site. Please improve it when you know more real data, such as which version of Android they will support. Dale

09-30-2011, 02:06 PM	#54
drd1135 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: kindle 2	The Nook Color is the hackable blank slate. The Fire (and maybe the coming Nook tablet) are for those many, many folks who want to the thing to work when it shows up. The Fire is aimed at providing the most popular services for a good price, not to be the best Android tablet. Like the Kindle, Amazon is shooting to provide a carefully chosen set of capabilities at a good price and do them very well. Since this is a tablet, this is a much larger set of capabilities. We'll see how well Amazon chose. As for being locked in, most people are locked in now and don't even think about it. The techies are not the target for the Fire.

09-30-2011, 02:09 PM	#55
marcosv Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: California Device: Kindle PW 1, Nexus 7 (2013)	FWIW, I just ordered the Kindle Fire. I know it'll probably very difficult to root it and get around its bootloader to install other Android OS, but, it is just $200 and will do 80 to 90% what I do with my 10" Android tablet today. No doubt there will be bigger tablets with more features coming out next year, but, at $200 for a nice IPS screen, decent performance, and it will do the media content stuff well right now, I'm good to go. If I already bought an iPad, I can see why you wouldn't buy this since the iPad should do everything that the Kindle Fire can do --- unless you want another 7" reader for just $200. Also, it is backed by Amazon and will get a lot of love from Amazon for a while as Amazon pushes it's strategy. I expect more developers will put their apps on the Amazon store because of the Kindle Fire --- provided that Amazon picked a recent enough version of the Android OS to make development economical.

09-30-2011, 02:12 PM	#56
gweminence Fat Guy Posts: 408 Karma: 24165 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Kindle Voyage	I'd be shocked if it isn't rooted within 48 hours