New Reader with great pdf-support: Mantano Reader (like aldiko+ezpdf) - Page 20

sangahm · 09-28-2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jhempel24

If you just tap the screen it'll give you that information (regarding status, not pages into chapter).

Yes, but that's not as convenient as glancing on the status bar to see those items.

I have returned to Moon Reader until this feature is implemented in Mantano. It is that important to me.

SCION · 09-28-2011, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sangahm

Yes, but that's not as convenient as glancing on the status bar to see those items.

I have returned to Moon Reader until this feature is implemented in Mantano. It is that important to me.

It MUST be very important if you're returning to Moon+ for that reason alone.

=X= · 09-28-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SCION

It MUST be very important if you're returning to Moon+ for that reason alone.

Ha ha .....

Hey!? Moon isn't that bad, it's still my preferred eReader

=X=

SCION · 09-28-2011, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by =X=

Ha ha .....

Hey!? Moon isn't that bad, it's still my preferred eReader

=X=

I thought of you when I posted that!

ghostyjack · 09-28-2011, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sangahm

Yes, but that's not as convenient as glancing on the status bar to see those items.

I have returned to Moon Reader until this feature is implemented in Mantano. It is that important to me.

Well if they do implament it, then I hope that is an option that can be turned off as I much prefer to have the full-screen experience that we have now and for me to tap the screen to see the info.

Synergi · 09-28-2011, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ArthurG

@peaceridge

Hello,
I work for Mantano's customer support. Of course, if you can't use the app at all on your device you'll get a refund, like we just did for Synergi. Could you give me the number of the ticket that you posted ? Or if not, please contact us on the helpdesk for the refund.

I will confirm they did give me a refund. I may rebuy it out of google market and put it on my nook but I'm waiting to see what device I'll end up with since I'm returning the edge..

Blossom · 09-28-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SCION

It MUST be very important if you're returning to Moon+ for that reason alone.

Agreed. Have you tried Cool Reader the last couple of updates have really improve the font rendering. I can't really tell a difference on either app now with the text. I still think Mantano does a better job with justifying text then Cool Reader but it was the font rendering that kept me using CR. Now I have two options. Mantano or Cool Reader to choose from.

Moon+ doesn't read external style sheets so it's a no for me.

SCION · 09-28-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Blossom

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Moon+ doesn't read external style sheets so it's a no for me.

Yeah, that's what got me looking for beefy alternatives.

Eskarina · 09-28-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Blossom

Agreed. Have you tried Cool Reader the last couple of updates have really improve the font rendering. I can't really tell a difference on either app now with the text. I still think Mantano does a better job with justifying text then Cool Reader but it was the font rendering that kept me using CR. Now I have two options. Mantano or Cool Reader to choose from.

Moon+ doesn't read external style sheets so it's a no for me.

I second you on that. CR is the only epub reader I've found that renders text nicely (pretty close to publisher default) AND makes use of the full font family of whatever font you choose. This makes Moon+ is a definite no for me. I love Mantano's organization/library/annotation features but I find myself reading more with CR than Mantano - for now anyway.

I'm with the previous poster in re the title bar. I read with full screen and like having the title bar up there to keep track of the time, page and battery %. I make the title bar font color slightly less visible than my main reading font color and can't tell you how many times I look up there while reading.

mvo · 09-29-2011, 04:00 AM

I like the trial version of this app very much - it is one of the few that seems to use the CSS style-sheets in a book - properly! I have a few minor issues with it on my phone and a tablet I'm evaluating for work, but will report these via the support site.

sangahm · 09-29-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SCION

Yeah, that's what got me looking for beefy alternatives.

CSS isn't high up for me, as I use calibre to reformat the way I need it to.

And yes, the status bar is very important. In fact I read about 20% of my current book in Mantano, and when I went back to MR, I was so relieved to see how far I was in the chapter while reading (eg. should I start the next chapter since it's only 15 pages, or no way if 40 pages). If CR would support the chapter page #, it would be my default.

Font rendering is what drew me to Mantano. In the last 2 days, I went through about 30-40 fonts before finally settling on a Georgia variant, Bienetresocial. It comes close to the Mantano default for now.

SCION · 09-29-2011, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sangahm

CSS isn't high up for me, as I use calibre to reformat the way I need it to...

I was referring to publisher defaults. I use calibre for tweaks when I want to. Sometimes it's not convenient for me to do, perhaps I'm away from my computer for an extended period of time. I simply want to view publisher defaults on occasion. With Moon+ I find that I need to adjust stuff for individual books to make it visually appealing and less like a text document. It's just a personal preference.

Blossom · 09-29-2011, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCION

I was referring to publisher defaults. I use calibre for tweaks when I want to. Sometimes it's not convenient for me to do, perhaps I'm away from my computer for an extended period of time. I simply want to view publisher defaults on occasion. With Moon+ I find that I need to adjust stuff for individual books to make it visually appealing and less like a text document. It's just a personal preference.

I want my books to look the way it does when I look at it on my eReader and Mantano comes close. If only the Italic and Bold would use my custom font. I use Tahoma as my default font it's nice and dark and crisp for reading on a 3.2" screen.

I do believe the default font for Mantano is Droids Serif. Which is a google font.

bossfan2000 · 09-29-2011, 03:53 PM

I biggest reason I use Mantano, as silly as it may sound, is the consistent page numbers due to the Adobe DRM epub support (I assume). Unless something has changed in the last 30-60 days, the programs without Adobe DRM support do NOT have page numbering between different devices.

For example, in Mantano (and Aldiko), I get the same page number no matter what device I am on. So when I am on my phone on page 65 of a book on my phone, I can switch to my tablet and go to page 65. Both devices will report the same number of total pages for each book. With Cool Reader, Moon+, etc..instead of page numbers you have "screen pages". So on my phone Book A might be 9000 pages, where on my tablet it might be 3000 pages...making it much more difficult to swith devices. I figure if I can't have whispersync, at least I can use an app that uses a consistent page numbering system.

Peake · 09-30-2011, 11:45 AM

@ Joseph

Thank you for taking the time to make such a detailed reply. I have been waiting for the next release, as many of the requested features on your support desk will address many of the points I brought up. With your additional info, it sounds wonderful

As for the book covers, I've not been able to update them in the current release.

The column zoom does indeed work -- this is my bad, I had tried it with a PDF that I've been having trouble with and it didn't work. I hadn't thought to try it on another PDF. I just now tried it again on a few other articles, and it works fine.

As for the other dictionaries I have, I have mistakenly left the impression that I have a number of other dictionaries on my tablet. I do have colordict and the free version of Merriam-Websters, and a couple of the embedded dictionaries available in Mantano. I have several dictionaries, mostly in mobipocket format, on my laptop/desktop, but I haven't transferred these dictionaries over to the tablet. To my knowledge, there is no android reader that can integrate mobipocket dictionaries, or even handle them as a dictionary and use the word indexing. I'm willing to buy replacements in another format, but only if a dictionary interface is at least somewhat standardized for interaction within an application. I don't see this as a specific Mantano Reader issue.

The default language problem I have since dug into this a bit and found it is a problem with the books themselves. They have the value set to something that I presume isn't included in what Mantano x-refs for the language. These are limited to only a few books, a few from the forums here and some bought from Baen Webscriptions. The values were 'US English (en-us), 'UND', 'undefined', and '_'. I'll fix the books and readd them to the Mantano Reader. I only stumbled upon this in the first place because I was playing around with TTS.

Again, thanks for your reply, and I'm looking forward to the next release.

Regards,
Peake

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09-29-2011, 04:00 AM	#295
mvo Connoisseur Posts: 78 Karma: 1588 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Zealand Device: see signature	I like the trial version of this app very much - it is one of the few that seems to use the CSS style-sheets in a book - properly! I have a few minor issues with it on my phone and a tablet I'm evaluating for work, but will report these via the support site.

09-29-2011, 03:53 PM	#299
bossfan2000 Connoisseur Posts: 58 Karma: 504579 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Nashville, TN Device: Kobo Aura HD, Kobo Mini, iPhone 6+, Kindle Voyage	I biggest reason I use Mantano, as silly as it may sound, is the consistent page numbers due to the Adobe DRM epub support (I assume). Unless something has changed in the last 30-60 days, the programs without Adobe DRM support do NOT have page numbering between different devices. For example, in Mantano (and Aldiko), I get the same page number no matter what device I am on. So when I am on my phone on page 65 of a book on my phone, I can switch to my tablet and go to page 65. Both devices will report the same number of total pages for each book. With Cool Reader, Moon+, etc..instead of page numbers you have "screen pages". So on my phone Book A might be 9000 pages, where on my tablet it might be 3000 pages...making it much more difficult to swith devices. I figure if I can't have whispersync, at least I can use an app that uses a consistent page numbering system.

09-30-2011, 11:45 AM	#300
Peake Member Posts: 22 Karma: 32 Join Date: May 2009 Device: none	@ Joseph Thank you for taking the time to make such a detailed reply. I have been waiting for the next release, as many of the requested features on your support desk will address many of the points I brought up. With your additional info, it sounds wonderful As for the book covers, I've not been able to update them in the current release. The column zoom does indeed work -- this is my bad, I had tried it with a PDF that I've been having trouble with and it didn't work. I hadn't thought to try it on another PDF. I just now tried it again on a few other articles, and it works fine. As for the other dictionaries I have, I have mistakenly left the impression that I have a number of other dictionaries on my tablet. I do have colordict and the free version of Merriam-Websters, and a couple of the embedded dictionaries available in Mantano. I have several dictionaries, mostly in mobipocket format, on my laptop/desktop, but I haven't transferred these dictionaries over to the tablet. To my knowledge, there is no android reader that can integrate mobipocket dictionaries, or even handle them as a dictionary and use the word indexing. I'm willing to buy replacements in another format, but only if a dictionary interface is at least somewhat standardized for interaction within an application. I don't see this as a specific Mantano Reader issue. The default language problem I have since dug into this a bit and found it is a problem with the books themselves. They have the value set to something that I presume isn't included in what Mantano x-refs for the language. These are limited to only a few books, a few from the forums here and some bought from Baen Webscriptions. The values were 'US English (en-us), 'UND', 'undefined', and '_'. I'll fix the books and readd them to the Mantano Reader. I only stumbled upon this in the first place because I was playing around with TTS. Again, thanks for your reply, and I'm looking forward to the next release. Regards, Peake