Kindle Library Loans Goes Live Today, 21 Sep 2011

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I certainly don't remember that being a very popular answer, but I'm sure there were a few who were obtuse enough (and vocal enough) to respond like that. Mainly, I remember Kindle owners (even in the Kindle forum) suggesting that prospective buyers might want to look elsewhere if borrowing ebooks from the library was high on their wishlist. I know that was always my advice--and the advice of most people I consider "reasonable."

My point in the first part of the post was that there might be a difference between what you see on the kindle forum and what you see in the news forum. Can you remember which replies were on which forums? Did you give the reasonable reply on the News forum?

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by Sil_liS

My point in the first part of the post was that there might be a difference between what you see on the kindle forum and what you see in the news forum.Can you remember which replies were on which forums?

Good point, but...

Did you give the reasonable reply on the News forum?

I try not to tailor my replies based on who might be reading them, or where they might be posted. I believe consistency should be a virtue.

[boswd]

Originally Posted by Sil_liS

It might depend on what part of the forum the discussions were taking place. In the news section the topics were generally derailed in the direction of "mine is better than yours", and those that don't own a kindle and/or don't plan on owning one have don't really have a reason to go to the kindle section.
I also remember people saying that other readers have book borrowing options and therefore are better, with kindle owners replying that it doesn't matter, they wouldn't use the option anyway because of limitation like borrowing limits and waiting lists.

yup most of the kindle owners saying library lending was a useless feature took place mostly in the What should I buy sub forum, and some in the General.

but I do love the selective memory on kindles owners.

I just really can't wait to see what a God like experience they are going to express with the kindle color ereader tablet comes out. And then reflect back on all those basically hate filled troll posts in the BN Nook subforum on the Nook color.
I just love the rose colored lenses and double standards they posses on this forum

[boswd]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I certainly don't remember that being a very popular answer, but I'm sure there were a few who were obtuse enough (and vocal enough) to respond like that. Mainly, I remember Kindle owners (even in the Kindle forum) suggesting that prospective buyers might want to look elsewhere if borrowing ebooks from the library was high on their wishlist. I know that was always my advice--and the advice of most people I consider "reasonable."

Holding an entire demographic responsible for the opinions of a few vocal extremists seems a bit petty and pointless to me.


And I can't wait for you to mistakenly assume you that those who inevitably do end up thinking it's "the greatest thing ever invented" were the same people who weren't interested in it, at all. You should look into a narrower paintbrush. Your wide one is getting paint in places it doesn't belong.

sigh

I have collected all the data from the kindle owners who responded with their hatred don't you worry

[mldavis2]

Many of us have multiple devices. It's a non-issue -- unless of course you grabbed one flag and waved it precipitously.

Back to my book.

[stonetools]

Kudos to Amazon for its rollout of its lending feature. Although I haven't tested it , yet, it seems to work pretty well.

I expect Amazon to look to build on and monetize this capability, since I'm sure it didn't create this feature just to be "friendly" . More on that anon.

[ProfCrash]

Originally Posted by Sil_liS

It might depend on what part of the forum the discussions were taking place. In the news section the topics were generally derailed in the direction of "mine is better than yours", and those that don't own a kindle and/or don't plan on owning one have don't really have a reason to go to the kindle section.
I also remember people saying that other readers have book borrowing options and therefore are better, with kindle owners replying that it doesn't matter, they wouldn't use the option anyway because of limitation like borrowing limits and waiting lists.

I did say that it was not an important feature for me and that I recommended the Nook and Sony for those who wanted to read at the library. And then I would normally say that I will be thrilled when the Kindle can be used at the library because it will remove the issue.

Most people who bought Kindles were not interested in using the library because it was not an option. Having that option is nice. I will happily test it out but I don't see myself using it all that frequently. If something happens to the family funding source I would probably use the library.

[boswd]

Originally Posted by stonetools

Kudos to Amazon for its rollout of its lending feature. Although I haven't tested it , yet, it seems to work pretty well.

I expect Amazon to look to build on and monetize this capability, since I'm sure it didn't create this feature just to be "friendly" . More on that anon.

actually I think they did implament it because it was one of the glaring con's that were pointed out when trying to decide on which ereader to buy.
For it's first few years when it basically had no competition, I don't think they really cared all that much. Now that they don't have a stranglehold on the ereader market like they once did, they do have to make changes in order to maintain their position .

It's a reactionary move , no doubt. As is coming out with an ereader tablet similiar to the nook color.

[khalleron]

Originally Posted by boswd

actually I think they did implament it because it was one of the glaring con's that were pointed out when trying to decide on which ereader to buy.
For it's first few years when it basically had no competition, I don't think they really cared all that much. Now that they don't have a stranglehold on the ereader market like they once did, they do have to make changes in order to maintain their position .

It's a reactionary move , no doubt. As is coming out with an ereader tablet similiar to the nook color.

Which is all to the good - competition keeps them on their toes and benefits everyone.

I'm sure Amazon would prefer to be the only game in town, but that benefits no one but them.

I hope the Sony T1 proves popular enough that it forces them to provide library integration and more open access, too.

Since the *reading* experience is pretty much the same on all e-ink readers, it's the *user* experience that needs to be enhanced from reader to reader to keep things interesting - where and how one gets one's books and how easy and/or expensive that acquisition process is.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Right and it's not standard mobi format but whatever amazon is supplying - tpz or amz with DRM.

AZW is standard mobi format. Only the DRM is different. Remove the DRM and you get a mobi file.

[boswd]

Originally Posted by khalleron

Which is all to the good - competition keeps them on their toes and benefits everyone.

I'm sure Amazon would prefer to be the only game in town, but that benefits no one but them.

I hope the Sony T1 proves popular enough that it forces them to provide library integration and more open access, too.

Since the *reading* experience is pretty much the same on all e-ink readers, it's the *user* experience that needs to be enhanced from reader to reader to keep things interesting - where and how one gets one's books and how easy and/or expensive that acquisition process is.

yup I agree, I'm not a big fan of the current crop of kindles nor the lack of epub but the kindle makes the nook better and the nook makes the kindle better.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by khalleron

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Since the *reading* experience is pretty much the same on all e-ink readers, it's the *user* experience that needs to be enhanced from reader to reader to keep things interesting - where and how one gets one's books and how easy and/or expensive that acquisition process is.

actually it's not...it depends on the User Interface - touch-screen, buttons/controls and to move beyond the e-ink experience on a tablet or computer the UI and the features and display etc. are all very different depending on the app/application.

[ProfCrash]

just not worth it

[Jack Tingle]

Just tried it. It works OK for the NOBLE libraries (North of Boston Library Exchange). This is very convenient, it means I won't have to fire up the jetBook to read a library book anymore.

Regards,
Jack Tingle

[FizzyWater]

Originally Posted by HarleyB

What I'd really like to see are the WMA Audiobooks become ebooks as well but so far that hasn't happened.

That would be so cool!

When the Overdrive digital bookmobile came to my local library, I talked to them, and they made it sound like the same thing happening for ebooks was going to happen for audiobooks. But it might just mean that if you have an i-thingy, it'll provide an Apple-formatted DRM'd audiobook in place of the WRM, rather than just switching them all to MP3.