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Old 09-22-2011, 08:08 PM   #76
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Wha huh?!
Why the surprise? You no longer have access to the book, so it goes away.
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Old 09-22-2011, 09:20 PM   #77
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Why the surprise? You no longer have access to the book, so it goes away.
I was just taken aback a bit, that's all. I certainly don't want to make it sound like a bigger deal than it is, but I'm just surprised that they would choose to make it "go away" as opposed to just rendering the file unusable like epub library books.
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Old 09-22-2011, 09:24 PM   #78
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I was just taken aback a bit, that's all. I certainly don't want to make it sound like a bigger deal than it is, but I'm just surprised that they would choose to make it "go away" as opposed to just rendering the file unusable like epub library books.
The one I returned did not go away.
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Has anyone else noticed that with the Kindle transition, the older books that used to be PDF-only now have Kindle AND epub versions? I'm wondering if the conversion didn't yield something for other users too.
Actually, that's been slowly converting over the last month or so. I've been noticing that some of the backlist books I wanted that had only been PDF or Mobi were now available in ePub. Not all. So I don't know if it's still happening, or if those books will remain only PDF. But it's been great to catch up on some old series books that I'd wanted.
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I was just taken aback a bit, that's all. I certainly don't want to make it sound like a bigger deal than it is, but I'm just surprised that they would choose to make it "go away" as opposed to just rendering the file unusable like epub library books.
Okay. I guess I read too much into it. I thought you were really shocked and offended.

I'm still reading the book I borrowed so I haven't had a chance to check out how it behaves myself. I know mobi files that had been kindlefix'd didn't go away when they expired.
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I find this all soo amusing. Back when the kindle could not check out books from the library, every kindle fan would say "who cares" " there's a waiting list" " you can only have the book for 2 weeks" and every other downplaying phrase and excuses basically saying it was a useless feature that all other ereaders had.

but NOW it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Can't wait to see the kindles version of the nook color and remember all the comments on how the LCD ereader is waste and not a real ereader blah blah blah. When it's announce it will be the greatest thing ever invented.

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Old 09-22-2011, 10:44 PM   #82
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I find this all soo amusing. Back when the kindle could not check out books from the library, every kindle fan would say "who cares" " there's a waiting list" " you can only have the book for 2 weeks" and every other downplaying phrase and excuses basically saying it was a useless feature that all other ereaders had.
Actually, what I remember is that most of us said that library lending would be a really nice feature, but that it did have limitations, including borrowing limits and waiting lists, all of which is true. Plus, unless you know for sure that people are actually changing their opinions on library lending just because it's here, all you're really doing is tossing out pointless insults.
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Actually, what I remember is that most of us said that library lending would be a really nice feature, but that it did have limitations, including borrowing limits and waiting lists, all of which is true. Plus, unless you know for sure that people are actually changing their opinions on library lending just because it's here, all you're really doing is tossing out pointless insults.
Oh there you go being silly and trying to remember conversations accurately.

I have a few books that I will check out to see how the library thing works. I would like to be able to show my parents how it works so that they can check out books. My Dad goes to the library all the time.

Mainly I am happy that people who want a Kindle but want to check out library books can.
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Old 09-23-2011, 12:08 AM   #84
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Actually, what I remember is that most of us said that library lending would be a really nice feature, but that it did have limitations, including borrowing limits and waiting lists, all of which is true. Plus, unless you know for sure that people are actually changing their opinions on library lending just because it's here, all you're really doing is tossing out pointless insults.
It might depend on what part of the forum the discussions were taking place. In the news section the topics were generally derailed in the direction of "mine is better than yours", and those that don't own a kindle and/or don't plan on owning one have don't really have a reason to go to the kindle section.
I also remember people saying that other readers have book borrowing options and therefore are better, with kindle owners replying that it doesn't matter, they wouldn't use the option anyway because of limitation like borrowing limits and waiting lists.
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Actually, that's been slowly converting over the last month or so. I've been noticing that some of the backlist books I wanted that had only been PDF or Mobi were now available in ePub. Not all. So I don't know if it's still happening, or if those books will remain only PDF. But it's been great to catch up on some old series books that I'd wanted.
Yes I've noticed that as well. Many books that I wanted to borrow that were previously only available as PDF are now available as ePub as well. This is great as I much prefer reading ePub to PDF. I'm hoping it continues so that all books are eventually availalbe in all formats.

What I'd really like to see are the WMA Audiobooks become ebooks as well but so far that hasn't happened.
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I also remember people saying that other readers have book borrowing options and therefore are better, with kindle owners replying that it doesn't matter, they wouldn't use the option anyway because of limitation like borrowing limits and waiting lists.
I certainly don't remember that being a very popular answer, but I'm sure there were a few who were obtuse enough (and vocal enough) to respond like that. Mainly, I remember Kindle owners (even in the Kindle forum) suggesting that prospective buyers might want to look elsewhere if borrowing ebooks from the library was high on their wishlist. I know that was always my advice--and the advice of most people I consider "reasonable."

Holding an entire demographic responsible for the opinions of a few vocal extremists seems a bit petty and pointless to me.

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Can't wait to see the kindles version of the nook color and remember all the comments on how the LCD ereader is waste and not a real ereader blah blah blah. When it's announce it will be the greatest thing ever invented.
And I can't wait for you to mistakenly assume you that those who inevitably do end up thinking it's "the greatest thing ever invented" were the same people who weren't interested in it, at all. You should look into a narrower paintbrush. Your wide one is getting paint in places it doesn't belong.

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I noticed that for the Philadelphia Free Library, most of the Open EPub books are not available in Kindle format (maybe 1 in 20). I looked at one in particular, and it was available as Open Epub at the library, and was on Amazon's site, but wasn't available in Kindle Format at the library.

Is there some restriction with Open Epub, or are they still ramping up?
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I noticed several of the new (in the "new eBooks" section, not open eBooks) books not being available as Kindle books as well. I don't know if they might get added as Kindle books later.
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Actually, my 'to-read' list is well over 150 titles at this time. It is not likely that between the library pBooks and Kindle-available Overdrive eBooks and pBook-loaning friends that I will hit the wall anytime soon and actually have to purchase something to read -- except maybe another eReader -- just to cover the bases, you know ...
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