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Old 09-17-2011, 06:51 PM   #76
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Without a doubt. I'd also posit that they are not being made at the same clip that they used to be made at.
Same clip?
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:54 PM   #77
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Here's a good honest comment IMO on win8 metro and tablets:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20...tough-to-beat/
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Old 09-17-2011, 07:41 PM   #78
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It's obvious that the same and exact Windows version can't run in both ARM and x86. The point of my original statement was clarifying that there is not such thing as Windows 8 tablet. I didn't have to specify the processor, since I was only talking about the OS itself, pointing out that Windows 8, either for tablet or Desktop PC, is the same. Windows 8 running in a tablet will have the Desktop option; Windows 8 running in a Desktop PC will have the option of Metro interface.

If the machine has an ARM or x86 processor is another discussion.
It's not about if W8 will run on ARM chips or not. Apparently, it will. The issue is this:
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Sinofsky corrected a questioner on the issue, stating unequivocally for the first time that Windows 8 on ARM devices will run only the new Metro widget-style apps, not legacy Windows apps like Office.
This is the atricle.

So it will be the same W8 running on x86 and ARM, but on ARM legacy Windows apps will not work.
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Old 09-18-2011, 04:35 AM   #79
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Windows on other processor architectures isn't particularly new. I worked for a company that released NT4 software for Dec Alpha's.

I suspect support of other platforms will be as good as it was then too...
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Old 09-18-2011, 01:05 PM   #80
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It's not about if W8 will run on ARM chips or not. Apparently, it will. The issue is this:
This is the atricle.

So it will be the same W8 running on x86 and ARM, but on ARM legacy Windows apps will not work.
And? Did you expect legacy Windows 7 apps to run on ARM architecture? Don't be silly! That is impossible without some kind of emulation, no very safe actually. I am not surprised, are you? And that's not an issue. Why do you think is Microsoft unleveling Windows 8 so early, probably 18 months before its release? Answer: To give time to the developers to create or adapt apps for Windows Metro or/and ARM architecture. So, Windows 8 is expected to have a good amount of apps running in all architecture by the time of its release.

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Old 09-18-2011, 01:41 PM   #81
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Flash needs to die. I'm glad somebody besides apple agrees with me.

Reason #108 why I hate flash. The stupid plugin keeps wanting me to update it, and then requires a reboot of windows? What the heck is a plugin putting in my system that it needs a reboot?
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Old 09-18-2011, 01:42 PM   #82
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People,this is only preview version Windows 8,You must wait for final build.
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Old 09-18-2011, 01:53 PM   #83
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And? Did you expect legacy Windows 7 apps to run on ARM architecture? Don't be silly! That is impossible without some kind of emulation, no very safe actually. I am not surprised, do you? And that's not an issue. Why do you think is Microsoft unleveling Windows 8 so early, probably 18 months before its release? Answer: To give time to the developers to create or adapt apps for Windows Metro or/and ARM architecture. So, Windows 8 is expected to have a good amount of apps running in all architecture by the time of its release.
No, I wasn't expecting legacy Windows apps to run on ARM, although, as you say who knows what happens by the launch date (and/or after)? My point was that on ARMs W8 will run, in both flavours (Metro and desktop), but (at least some) legacy Windows apps will not.
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Flash needs to die. I'm glad somebody besides apple agrees with me.

Reason #108 why I hate flash. The stupid plugin keeps wanting me to update it, and then requires a reboot of windows? What the heck is a plugin putting in my system that it needs a reboot?
That's more a Windows issue than a Flash issue.
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Old 09-18-2011, 01:56 PM   #85
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People,this is only preview version Windows 8,You must wait for final build.
That's right, this is not even a RC, it's a pre-beta software. The exciting thing is that for a pre-beta stage, the OS is quite impressive.
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Old 09-18-2011, 02:18 PM   #86
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Flash needs to die. I'm glad somebody besides apple agrees with me.

Reason #108 why I hate flash. The stupid plugin keeps wanting me to update it, and then requires a reboot of windows? What the heck is a plugin putting in my system that it needs a reboot?
That's odd; Flash updates really shouldn't need a system reboot. I don't recall that ever happening on any of my systems.
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That's odd; Flash updates really shouldn't need a system reboot. I don't recall that ever happening on any of my systems.
Count yourself lucky, it's something I've seen frequently on friends and colleagues machines... although like you, not my own...
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That's odd; Flash updates really shouldn't need a system reboot. I don't recall that ever happening on any of my systems.
Same for me.
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Flash needs to die. I'm glad somebody besides apple agrees with me.

Reason #108 why I hate flash. The stupid plugin keeps wanting me to update it, and then requires a reboot of windows? What the heck is a plugin putting in my system that it needs a reboot?
Then something is VERY wrong with your Windows installation. Flash updates haven't required me to reboot Windows (2000, XP or 7) in years.
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Silly Apple, nasty Apple doesn't run Flash on its iPads... hey, guess what the latest is from MS... Metro, the tablet version of Windows 8, will not support Flash as MS doesn't want to support plugins on tablets, similar functionality will be supported in HTML5... let's see how fair and unbiased everyone is now... I mean they're all going to criticise MS just the way they leaped on Apple... aren't they?
Actually, the no flash support is something where I would say : go Apple, go !
Good to see Microsoft ditching flash too.
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