A literary confession topic - Page 8

alansplace · 08-31-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Frida Fantastic

I consider myself a big science fiction/fantasy genre reader, but...

(3) I couldn't finish Stranger in a Strange Land.
It grew to be annoying mid-way through. But I still really want to read more Heinlein...

wow! rah was my first scifi author (i read farmer in the sky [satellite scout] in boy's life when i was a cub scout) and my very favorite writer ever and i've, over the years, re-read many/most of his works, many of them several times. i've, just recently, systematically re-read:

1. about 25% of his works not related to the below two categories
2. all the schribner's juveniles
3. all but the last two of his future history series related works.

i'm stuck on 'time enough for love' and because of that haven't started 'to sail beyond the sunset'. (the last two of the future history series)

'time enough for love' is making me nuts!! i usually start a book and hungrily plow through it till i'm done and then lament the fact that it's over and i must abandon those characters and all the interesting and unusual places where the story took place.

not so with 'time enough for love', and i don't remember feeling at all this way the first/other times i've read it.

perhaps it's my age

tanstaafl

anamardoll · 08-31-2011, 12:32 PM

Here's my literary confession (triggered by avatar above): I hated Jim Butcher's "Storm Front". I thought it was the silliest thing I'd ever read, completely driven by coincidence and heavily telegraphed author contrivances, and it was served with a heavy side order of misogyny and stereotypes.

MrsJoseph · 08-31-2011, 12:40 PM

I liked Storm Front but hated Fool Moon. I enjoyed book 3 and I've heard it only gets better from there.

alansplace · 08-31-2011, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by anamardoll

Here's my literary confession (triggered by avatar above): I hated Jim Butcher's "Storm Front". I thought it was the silliest thing I'd ever read, completely driven by coincidence and heavily telegraphed author contrivances, and it was served with a heavy side order of misogyny and stereotypes.

how disconcerting it is to me that my avatar sparked the above.

i like hillerman

and so it goes...

anamardoll · 08-31-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsJoseph

I liked Storm Front but hated Fool Moon. I enjoyed book 3 and I've heard it only gets better from there.

Ah, Fool Moon. The book where the Hawt Police Chick and the Hawt FBI Chick get into a Judo-Chop gun battle over Jurisdiction Friction and nobody bats an eye because what else are hawt chicks gonna do, amiright? Estrogen makes you crazy, scientific fact. And the Girl With A Secret accidentally drops a Crucial Crumpled Clue in her dinner with Dresden. All in the first 30 pages or so.

I was just amazed at the restraint of not having the women tear each other's clothes off at the crime scene.

(and sorry, AlansPlace.

)

alansplace · 08-31-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by anamardoll

...(and sorry, AlansPlace.

)

oh, that's ok

One man's theology is another man's belly laugh

MrsJoseph · 08-31-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by anamardoll

Ah, Fool Moon. The book where the Hawt Police Chick and the Hawt FBI Chick get into a Judo-Chop gun battle over Jurisdiction Friction and nobody bats an eye because what else are hawt chicks gonna do, amiright? Estrogen makes you crazy, scientific fact. And the Girl With A Secret accidentally drops a Crucial Crumpled Clue in her dinner with Dresden. All in the first 30 pages or so.

I was just amazed at the restraint of not having the women tear each other's clothes off at the crime scene.

(and sorry, AlansPlace.

)

Whaaaa? You mean hawt gurls are supposed to do other things?

JSWolf · 08-31-2011, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsJoseph

Whaaaa? You mean hawt gurls are supposed to do other things?

Yea, they are supposed to get arrested and do things to each other in the shower. Haven't you seen enough women in prison type movies to know this?

ProfCrash · 08-31-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsJoseph

I liked Storm Front but hated Fool Moon. I enjoyed book 3 and I've heard it only gets better from there.

I would say that the series has gone on far too long and is dragging. I strongly prefer the Codex Alera series

Frida Fantastic · 08-31-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by caleb72

Animal Farm was even worse.

Weirdly though, I thought Animal Farm was a breeze to read compared to 1984. Maybe the bludgeoning didn't seem so bad to me because I was already expecting the allegories and the message coming in. Plus they're talking animals.

Hellmark · 08-31-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

I would say that the series has gone on far too long and is dragging. I strongly prefer the Codex Alera series

I've not read the latest, but was thoroughly enjoying the series all the way up to the end of the second to last book. The way I felt about the ending of that book was as if Butcher just was like "Rocks fall, everyone dies".

MrsJoseph · 08-31-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellmark

I've not read the latest, but was thoroughly enjoying the series all the way up to the end of the second to last book. The way I felt about the ending of that book was as if Butcher just was like "Rocks fall, everyone dies".

I have a friend who is a Dresden fanatic. He said that Butcher was ramping up to end the series, IIRC.

alansplace · 08-31-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsJoseph

I have a friend who is a Dresden fanatic. He said that Butcher was ramping up to end the series, IIRC.

i don't think so, he's publicly said that he has a dozen more books in his head, ready to begin writing, and then a 3 book finale.

ProfCrash · 08-31-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsJoseph

I have a friend who is a Dresden fanatic. He said that Butcher was ramping up to end the series, IIRC.

I thought I had heard that he had planned for 22 books. It might have been 24.

The good news is that he delivers them regularly. The bad news is that they are pretty predictable and the one person point of view has gotten old. Well, for me, it has gotten old.

I read the books but they are not a must buy and read on the first day any more. I didn't even realize that the latest one had been released until I saw people discussing. It took me a 5 hour plane ride to read it. (shrugs)

I think that the problem with a series of this length, and Wheel of Time and LOTR and other such long running series, is that it gets to the point where you are screaming "Get on with it all ready". In Dresden's case, each book the characters move farther and farther away from their original dispositions and it gets more and more depressing with no real sense that it is going to get better. I don't like how some of the characters have changed, even if the changes are realistic.

At least JKR was able to limit herself to one book per year in school. Jim Butcher needed to find a similar device for Dresden. He was able to do it with the Codex Alera series.

Just one persons opinion.

MrsJoseph · 08-31-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by alansplace

i don't think so, he's publicly said that he has a dozen more books in his head, ready to begin writing, and then a 3 book finale.

OOh! I must not have remembered correctly cause my friend would know, lol.

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

I thought I had heard that he had planned for 22 books. It might have been 24.

The good news is that he delivers them regularly. The bad news is that they are pretty predictable and the one person point of view has gotten old. Well, for me, it has gotten old.

I read the books but they are not a must buy and read on the first day any more. I didn't even realize that the latest one had been released until I saw people discussing. It took me a 5 hour plane ride to read it. (shrugs)

I think that the problem with a series of this length, and Wheel of Time and LOTR and other such long running series, is that it gets to the point where you are screaming "Get on with it all ready". In Dresden's case, each book the characters move farther and farther away from their original dispositions and it gets more and more depressing with no real sense that it is going to get better. I don't like how some of the characters have changed, even if the changes are realistic.

At least JKR was able to limit herself to one book per year in school. Jim Butcher needed to find a similar device for Dresden. He was able to do it with the Codex Alera series.

Just one persons opinion.

LOL! I haven't gotten far enough to get tired of them...(except the woman thing going on) but my friend would have a heart attack reading this, lol (no really, he'd pass out). Sensei loves Dresden, reads the entire series at least once a year and says that he just wants to live long enough to get to the end.

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08-31-2011, 12:32 PM	#107
anamardoll Chasing Butterflies Posts: 3,132 Karma: 5074169 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: American Southwest Device: Uses batteries.	Here's my literary confession (triggered by avatar above): I hated Jim Butcher's "Storm Front". I thought it was the silliest thing I'd ever read, completely driven by coincidence and heavily telegraphed author contrivances, and it was served with a heavy side order of misogyny and stereotypes.

08-31-2011, 12:40 PM	#108
MrsJoseph Loves Ellipsis... Posts: 1,554 Karma: 7899232 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Washington, DC Device: Kobo Wifi (broken), nook STR (returned), Kobo Touch, Sony T1	I liked Storm Front but hated Fool Moon. I enjoyed book 3 and I've heard it only gets better from there.