Amazon Tablet May Cost Hundreds Less Than iPad

[RockdaMan]

Originally Posted by OtterBooks

Android tablet users look up from their version of a digital feedbag with wise, grounded self-realization.

This is a very funny (non-partisan) statement, and I'd laugh at whichever technology caste it was leveled at.

[Barty]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

2- yes; really! I have an iPod touch 4 and the ONLY part of iTunes I use is the App Store. I don't do music, movies, TV shows, books, or podcasts. Apple doesn't have my credit card and I have no intention of ever spending any money on Apple content.

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WhT at is exactly what I am saying. If apps is the most important thing in a tablet for you then it's a bit suspect to say apple has no advantage. Quite the opposite, I think. You can get music books etc anywhere else, but when it comes to apps, the iPad is still the best, in quality and availability. That's the consensus, at least among people in the know who aren't dead set against all things apple.

It's like saying safety is the most important thing to you yet you see no advantage in getting a car with the best reputation for safety. Huh?

[RockdaMan]

Originally Posted by =X=

Spec for spec don't take my word on it look it up.

From experience I will say the speeds are comparable.

My experience is that the motor in my Ford and the motor in your Chevy can be equal on the specs, and I'll still destroy you in the quarter mile because it's elsewhere that the true merits of the car are put on display.

Same with the devices.

[RockdaMan]

Originally Posted by djulian

I just never see folks in the local coffeehouses on an Android tablet.

Then you don't like what tablets do to people, not iPads.

[=X=]

Originally Posted by RockdaMan

My experience is that the motor in my Ford and the motor in your Chevy can be equal on the specs, and I'll still destroy you in the quarter mile because it's elsewhere that the true merits of the car are put on display.

Same with the devices.

Yes I agree but I didn't really want to go into all of the deficiencies the iOS has. I merely was pointing out that the iPad and nook had similar hardware specs.

[RockdaMan]

Originally Posted by =X=

Yes I agree but I didn't really want to go into all of the deficiencies the iOS has.

Touche.

[Lemurion]

I have both iOS and Android devices, and to be honest I find both App ecosystems have advantages and disadvantages. Apple tends to have better paid apps, Android tends to have better free apps - at least that I'm interested in.

The iPhone is great for consuming Apple's content - particularly audio/visual content.

The Android is better for consuming my content - particularly ebooks.

Both ecosystems have their strengths and their flaws: How you rate those strengths and flaws will determine which is best for you.

I rate the NC as about 75% as good as an iPad because it's a good fit for my needs. I don't need the larger screen for reading novels, but I do benefit from the higher DPI. My nine-year-old is happier with iOS, because it fits HER needs.

[SCION]

Originally Posted by Lemurion

...I don't need the larger screen for reading novels, but I do benefit from the higher DPI....

Same here. I always stop and look at the iPad when I'm browsing, but it doesn't meet my requirement as an eReader primarily (compared to NOOKcolor).

[DMB]

I feel as though I haven't joined the modern world. I don't play games on computers apart from solitaire and sudoku, and I don't watch films on them either and don't want to. I do listen to music on them and use iTunes to do so, but I've never bought anything from iTunes in my life. I use it to rip CDS and store the results as MP3s that I then play in with iTunes software.

[tomsem]

Originally Posted by Lemurion

I have both iOS and Android devices, and to be honest I find both App ecosystems have advantages and disadvantages. Apple tends to have better paid apps, Android tends to have better free apps - at least that I'm interested in.

The iPhone is great for consuming Apple's content - particularly audio/visual content.

The Android is better for consuming my content - particularly ebooks.

Both ecosystems have their strengths and their flaws: How you rate those strengths and flaws will determine which is best for you.

I rate the NC as about 75% as good as an iPad because it's a good fit for my needs. I don't need the larger screen for reading novels, but I do benefit from the higher DPI. My nine-year-old is happier with iOS, because it fits HER needs.

I would concur with most of this, and drawing on my vast XOOM+Honeycomb experience (of 2 weeks) I'd just add that there aren't yet as many apps optimized for a larger display, and a significant number of apps won't even run (maybe as many as 3-5% of the ones I've tried to date, including Pandora). That just doesn't happen with my iPod Touch: pretty much everything works except apps with more specific hardware requirements: GPS, a better camera, bigger screen etc.

On the other hand, Flash works pretty well and lets me use corporate, Flex-enabled sites effectively, and more of the internet is directly accessible. I also like being able to shop at more than one App Store, and the more open platform generally. For example, I was able to replace the included TTS engine with one I liked better. You can replace the keyboard

I also find the better Android ePub reading apps (Mantano, Aldiko, CoolReader) stronger and more mature than those for iOS.

I hope Amazon's tablet will include Market access as well out of the box, because Amazon's App Store is really not at parity. I'm skeptical that it will, but presumably there will be ways around that if it does not.

[kjk]

Analyst: Amazon could 'easily' sell 3-5m tablets in 2011

Forrester analyst Sarah Rotman Epps on Monday estimated that Amazon could "easily" ship three million to five million of its anticipated Android tablet. She saw Amazon having the first real competitor to Apple's iPad provided it could ship at $299 or less and didn't have problems keeping up supply. Amazon's willingness to price dump, or sell at a loss to gain market share, could make that possible, Epps said.

I also think they will be limited by production, not demand.

[OtterBooks]

I have an itchy feeling that Amazon will be going about this in a way that none of the analysts got quite right, with regard to the hardware, the marketing, or both.

Amazon has been so secretive about it all that the rumor-mill has created a multitude of fantasies, none of which are going to match what's actually coming. I don't know what that is, but I think it's something that nobody was counting on. Or not.

Somewhere an Amazon development team is reading the daily news and laughing.

[djulian]

Originally Posted by OtterBooks

I have an itchy feeling

I have a powder for that. (Terrible joke, I know. I blame a childhood wasted on Mel Brooks movies.)

Originally Posted by OtterBooks

Somewhere an Amazon development team is reading the daily news and laughing.

This is probably true. Still, I'm convinced, based on my careful evaluation of market forces, and my unusual insight into the Bezos that Amazon will release a 15" dual-screen folding tablet w/ international 3G, four cameras, a choice of operating systems, a free tethering cable, and a twelve pack of MGD.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by stonetools

By your method of argumentation, TM, I could argue that a Honda civic gives 100 per cent of the experience of a BMW .

It does for me. All I need a car for is transportation. Both will get me to my destination, so why should I waste thousands of dollars more?

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by stonetools

Of course, you may be as happy watching a movie on a 7" screen as on a 10" screen but the average consumer would think different.
The average consumer also loves their iTunes content, their superior iOS gaming experience, the greater security of the iOS system, etc, etc, etc....

You can't just discount those advantages because you think them unimportant. I'm also not at all sure that they would be unable to detect that the NC had been rooted.

1- you don't know that.

2- I can, because they're unimportant to me.