Is OSX Lion buggy? - Page 6

petermillard · 08-22-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FlorenceArt

...I think the price is a rip-off...

FWIW I've been using Lion since day one and have had no problems. None. OTOH my teenage daughter manages to regularly grey-screen her Macbook running Snow Leopard... <shrug>

Cheers, Pete.

unboggling · 08-22-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by petermillard

FWIW I've been using Lion since day one and have had no problems. None. OTOH my teenage daughter manages to regularly grey-screen her Macbook running Snow Leopard... <shrug>

Cheers, Pete.

Doesn't happen with all Macs, just specific models with specific hardware. Guess you were lucky.

FlorenceArt · 08-23-2011, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by petermillard

Oh yeah?

FWIW I've been using Lion since day one and have had no problems. None. OTOH my teenage daughter manages to regularly grey-screen her Macbook running Snow Leopard... <shrug>

Cheers, Pete.

I meant that it's a rip off to up the price from 29€ to 59€ for a USB stick that must be worth 10€ max.

FlorenceArt · 08-24-2011, 05:43 AM

Well, that's not really a surprise, but my order of the Snow Leopard DVD was canceled: the product is obsolete! I'll just wait a few months or weeks and order the Lion USB stick. Or maybe nothing at all.

I used to think that I could safely upgrade my OS for the first three years after buying a new Mac, but I'm not sure that's still true any more, things are accelerating. I've got a 2009 MacBook Pro, isn't that one of the models that have problems with Lion? Maybe I should just keep my old OS, I don't know.

unboggling · 08-24-2011, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FlorenceArt

Well, that's not really a surprise, but my order of the Snow Leopard DVD was canceled: the product is obsolete! I'll just wait a few months or weeks and order the Lion USB stick. Or maybe nothing at all.

I used to think that I could safely upgrade my OS for the first three years after buying a new Mac, but I'm not sure that's still true any more, things are accelerating. I've got a 2009 MacBook Pro, isn't that one of the models that have problems with Lion? Maybe I should just keep my old OS, I don't know.

I don't know if that LIon v10.7.1 upgrade fixed most of the problems or not. What store did you try to buy Snow Leopard in?

FlorenceArt · 08-24-2011, 09:50 AM

I just checked on the French Apple store, and the price of the USB stick (with free shipping) is almost exactly the same as Snow Leopard DVD + shipping + Lion update. I guess I'll go that second way if Apple actually agrees to ship the DVD. At least I can be sure I will have a stable and better supported OS, and if the bug reports get better I can still upgrade to Lion later and not have paid more.

unboggling · 08-24-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FlorenceArt

I just checked on the French Apple store, and the price of the USB stick (with free shipping) is almost exactly the same as Snow Leopard DVD + shipping + Lion update. I guess I'll go that second way if Apple actually agrees to ship the DVD. At least I can be sure I will have a stable and better supported OS, and if the bug reports get better I can still upgrade to Lion later and not have paid more.

Sounds like a plan. Covers the bases, broadens your options. I personally really like Snow Leopard, so don't listen to me, I'm biased.

FlorenceArt · 08-26-2011, 09:43 AM

I have the Snow Leopard DVD now!

Had to had it delivered at work, which I hate to do, because UPS simply cannot deliver to my home. At least I shouldn't have this problem now with the Mac App Store. I look forward to browsing it this weekend.

unboggling · 08-26-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FlorenceArt

I have the Snow Leopard DVD now!

Had to had it delivered at work, which I hate to do, because UPS simply cannot deliver to my home. At least I shouldn't have this problem now with the Mac App Store. I look forward to browsing it this weekend.

Heh. TGIF. And congratulations on obtaining it.

unboggling · 09-04-2011, 06:59 PM

Off topic, but I've got a question/problem maybe Mac users here can help me with. I use Time Machine for backups. It can't backup to more than one target volume at a time. So I've been backing up my internal drive (0.75 TB) using Time Machine to an external (2TB). I also want to backup a 2nd external 2TB to a 3rd external 2TB automatically. They're just stand alone drives, not in any kind of RAID setup. It's a hassle to have to remember to manually point Time Machine at the different origin and target volumes.

So does anyone know of some good 3rd party backup software I can setup in one fell swoop (instead of using Time Machine so awkwardly) that will automatically backup 2 source volumes to 2 target volumes with no muss or fuss?

kjk · 09-04-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by unboggling

So does anyone know of some good 3rd party backup software I can setup in one fell swoop (instead of using Time Machine so awkwardly) that will automatically backup 2 source volumes to 2 target volumes with no muss or fuss?

I use SuperDuper! and Time Machine.

I have SuperDuper! make a bootable clone of my computer, and I just manually backup every couple weeks or so. If my Mac dies, I can just boot up with the Superduper! drive and be back up immediately.

I use Time Machine for the incremental daily backups, but I find the every hour thing just unnecessary, so I use TimeMachineEditor to have it just backup every morning.

But, SuperDuper! has quite a few scripting features that might meet your needs, one feature will automatically start a backup when you connect an external drive-and it remembers which drive backs up which volumes, etc. It will also do a Smartbackup, i.e. just the files that changed.

unboggling · 09-04-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kjk

I use SuperDuper! and Time Machine.

I just DLd both.

Time Machine Editor may be useful for those rare times I don't want backups to interfere, or just changing Time Machine to backup less frequently than per hour. Nice to have the option.

SuperDuper looks worth the $28 to enable the scheduling option. And make a bootable clone.

Thank you, kjk.

Ubermensch · 09-07-2011, 06:09 PM

I haven't had any problems with OSX Lion since I updated my Macbook Pro (2011). I agree that it did got a bit "heavier", but my 8GB of RAM and quad-core i7 are enough to make it a seamless experience for me. The booting did got really slower though. I wish I had a SSD!

T.D.02809 · 09-07-2011, 08:41 PM

I have had my Calibre's entire library deleted/lost/vanish/disappear/crash with my MAC OS X LION upgrade. I have had two 2 long discussions/talks/help with Kindle's Customer Service. They have been competent/great at helping fix/resolve incompatible crashes/lost/loss of books with KINDLE FOR MAC APPS. I cannot say no problems. I wish I could. I am disappointed/frustrated with what has happened. I have tried to fix/repair but cannot. I will have to start from the beginning. I am glad I saved the titles and authors names separately along with books paid for/purchased. Any feedback will be thankful/appreciated. Thanks.

unboggling · 09-08-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ubermensch

I haven't had any problems with OSX Lion since I updated my Macbook Pro (2011). I agree that it did got a bit "heavier", but my 8GB of RAM and quad-core i7 are enough to make it a seamless experience for me. The booting did got really slower though. I wish I had a SSD!

When I tried out a iMac before learning cig smoke wasn't good for its display due to ventilation method sucking air up and through, I loved it's solid state drive. Significantly faster. But also significantly smaller in storage capacity, which is a different kind of hassle.

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Originally Posted by T.D.02809

I have had my Calibre's entire library deleted/lost/vanish/disappear/crash with my MAC OS X LION upgrade. I have had two 2 long discussions/talks/help with Kindle's Customer Service. They have been competent/great at helping fix/resolve incompatible crashes/lost/loss of books with KINDLE FOR MAC APPS. I cannot say no problems. I wish I could. I am disappointed/frustrated with what has happened. I have tried to fix/repair but cannot. I will have to start from the beginning. I am glad I saved the titles and authors names separately along with books paid for/purchased. Any feedback will be thankful/appreciated. Thanks.

I sympathize. No idea how/why that might have happened, first I've heard of a Lion upgrade specifically affecting calibre. Did you talk to Apple Support? Did you provide details in a post in the calibre forum here so knowledgable calibre people might respond? Anyway, I intentionally trashed all of my eBooks last month and started over from zero, redownloading what I'd bought from Amazon, grabbing Baen free CDs again, etc. So I know a little of what a hassle it is to start over, though in my case I'd feel a lot worse if it had happened against my will….

08-24-2011, 09:50 AM	#81
FlorenceArt High Priestess Posts: 5,761 Karma: 5042529 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreuil sous bois, France Device: iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 6 Plus	I just checked on the French Apple store, and the price of the USB stick (with free shipping) is almost exactly the same as Snow Leopard DVD + shipping + Lion update. I guess I'll go that second way if Apple actually agrees to ship the DVD. At least I can be sure I will have a stable and better supported OS, and if the bug reports get better I can still upgrade to Lion later and not have paid more. Last edited by FlorenceArt; 08-24-2011 at 10:01 AM.

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08-24-2011, 05:43 AM	#79
FlorenceArt High Priestess Posts: 5,761 Karma: 5042529 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreuil sous bois, France Device: iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 6 Plus	Well, that's not really a surprise, but my order of the Snow Leopard DVD was canceled: the product is obsolete! I'll just wait a few months or weeks and order the Lion USB stick. Or maybe nothing at all. I used to think that I could safely upgrade my OS for the first three years after buying a new Mac, but I'm not sure that's still true any more, things are accelerating. I've got a 2009 MacBook Pro, isn't that one of the models that have problems with Lion? Maybe I should just keep my old OS, I don't know.

08-26-2011, 09:43 AM	#83
FlorenceArt High Priestess Posts: 5,761 Karma: 5042529 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreuil sous bois, France Device: iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 6 Plus	I have the Snow Leopard DVD now! Had to had it delivered at work, which I hate to do, because UPS simply cannot deliver to my home. At least I shouldn't have this problem now with the Mac App Store. I look forward to browsing it this weekend.

09-04-2011, 06:59 PM	#85
unboggling Wizard Posts: 1,065 Karma: 858115 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Kobo Clara, Kindle Paperwhite 10	Off topic, but I've got a question/problem maybe Mac users here can help me with. I use Time Machine for backups. It can't backup to more than one target volume at a time. So I've been backing up my internal drive (0.75 TB) using Time Machine to an external (2TB). I also want to backup a 2nd external 2TB to a 3rd external 2TB automatically. They're just stand alone drives, not in any kind of RAID setup. It's a hassle to have to remember to manually point Time Machine at the different origin and target volumes. So does anyone know of some good 3rd party backup software I can setup in one fell swoop (instead of using Time Machine so awkwardly) that will automatically backup 2 source volumes to 2 target volumes with no muss or fuss?

09-07-2011, 06:09 PM	#88
Ubermensch Connoisseur Posts: 83 Karma: 507230 Join Date: Aug 2011 Device: Nook STR	I haven't had any problems with OSX Lion since I updated my Macbook Pro (2011). I agree that it did got a bit "heavier", but my 8GB of RAM and quad-core i7 are enough to make it a seamless experience for me. The booting did got really slower though. I wish I had a SSD!

09-07-2011, 08:41 PM	#89
T.D.02809 Enthusiast Posts: 38 Karma: 200 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA Device: Kindle 3rd Gen WiFi, Kindle App for MAC	I have had my Calibre's entire library deleted/lost/vanish/disappear/crash with my MAC OS X LION upgrade. I have had two 2 long discussions/talks/help with Kindle's Customer Service. They have been competent/great at helping fix/resolve incompatible crashes/lost/loss of books with KINDLE FOR MAC APPS. I cannot say no problems. I wish I could. I am disappointed/frustrated with what has happened. I have tried to fix/repair but cannot. I will have to start from the beginning. I am glad I saved the titles and authors names separately along with books paid for/purchased. Any feedback will be thankful/appreciated. Thanks.