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GoSharks · 08-22-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

That is Amazon's fault

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

is the fault of Amazon (who own Mobipocket).

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So the fact that Sony does not sell Mobipocket format is Amazon's fault.

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

So for everyone complaining that Sony doesn't sell Mobipocket format eBooks, that is the fault of Amazon.

Maybe if you say it enough times someone will listen to you.....but I doubt it.

JSWolf · 08-22-2011, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GoSharks

Maybe if you say it enough times someone will listem to you.....but I doubt it.

Just because you believe Amazon is perfect and can do no wrong doesn't make it so.

jocampo · 08-22-2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by abookreader

I think JSWolfe should contact Sony and demand they add mobi capability so he can read the books he wants.

GoSharks · 08-22-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Just because you believe Amazon is perfect and can do no wrong doesn't make it so.

Jon, I'm going to type slowly so please try to keep up...Amazon is a large company whose entire purpose in life is to turn a profit. It is not good or bad. It is not evil or a savior. And it is most definitely not out to get you...it does not even know you exist (even after 25,000 posts). My only thoughts on Amazon are that it sells a quality e-reader and has exceptional customer service. So, try to lighten up.

osnova · 08-23-2011, 01:37 AM

When possible, I make both versions. However, for some of my complex publications, after many days of work I came to the conclusion that it is impossible to create a comparable epub (at least with all of the original features).

I agree that for typical books this is not an issue.

Hellmark · 08-23-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by osnova

When possible, I make both versions. However, for some of my complex publications, after many days of work I came to the conclusion that it is impossible to create a comparable epub (at least with all of the original features).

I agree that for typical books this is not an issue.

I've yet to see anything Mobi can do that ePub couldn't. Usually it is the opposite.

JSWolf · 08-23-2011, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by osnova

When possible, I make both versions. However, for some of my complex publications, after many days of work I came to the conclusion that it is impossible to create a comparable epub (at least with all of the original features).

I agree that for typical books this is not an issue.

Are you sure you didn't mean a comparable Mobipocket eBook?

I too have not see anything Mobipocket can do that ePub cannot do in terms of formatting.

DiapDealer · 08-23-2011, 09:02 AM

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I've yet to see anything Mobi can do that ePub couldn't. Usually it is the opposite.

Indexed ebooks; like dictionaries and such.

JSWolf · 08-23-2011, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Indexed ebooks; like dictionaries and such.

You tell Sony that the dictionaries I have on my 650 aren't supposed to work.

DiapDealer · 08-23-2011, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

You tell Sony that the dictionaries I have on my 650 aren't supposed to work.

Read carefully: can you create your own dictionary (or other properly indexed ebook) for your 650 with ePub?
*looks for the bigger eye-rolling emoticon*

DreamWriter · 08-23-2011, 02:40 PM

Okay, I have a question for those of you who need ePub books.

My husband's book is available as both Kindle e-book and paperback at Amazon. The Amazon Kindle version is DRM-free, but I realize that not everyone wants to (or knows how to) convert a file from Kindle format to ePub.

I'm a Kindle user myself, and I must confess that I know little about other devices and where ePub readers purchase their e-books. My question is, if an ePub version is made available at Barnes & Noble online, would that be sufficient for users of ePub devices other than Nook?

starrigger · 08-23-2011, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DreamWriter

Okay, I have a question for those of you who need ePub books.

My husband's book is available as both Kindle e-book and paperback at Amazon. The Amazon Kindle version is DRM-free, but I realize that not everyone wants to (or knows how to) convert a file from Kindle format to ePub.

I'm a Kindle user myself, and I must confess that I know little about other devices and where ePub readers purchase their e-books. My question is, if an ePub version is made available at Barnes & Noble online, would that be sufficient for users of ePub devices other than Nook?

Pubit (B&N) is a good start, but they only sell in the U.S. I'd also put it in Smashwords. It's not much more work, and they distribute to a bunch of other stores.

DreamWriter · 08-23-2011, 03:10 PM

Thanks, starrigger. I've been considering Smashwords too, but I'm not pleased that they only accept MS Word files and then convert to the various formats through their automated process. Frankly, I've seen quite a few Smashwords books that don't look very good.

I prefer to have direct control over the end result, as proper formatting is very important to me. I hand-coded the HTML for the Kindle edition, and I'm very pleased with the results. But I don't want to exclude international ePub purchasers, so it may be necessary to include Smashwords as a distribution channel.

starrigger · 08-23-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DreamWriter

Thanks, starrigger. I've been considering Smashwords too, but I'm not pleased that they only accept MS Word files and then convert to the various formats through their automated process. Frankly, I've seen quite a few Smashwords books that don't look very good.

I prefer to have direct control over the end result, as proper formatting is very important to me. I hand-coded the HTML for the Kindle edition, and I'm very pleased with the results. But I don't want to exclude international ePub purchasers, so it may be necessary to include Smashwords as a distribution channel.

If you submit a really clean Word doc, SW generally does a good job. You could download a couple of my samples and judge whether they're up to your standards. I didn't do anything except be very careful with the formatting of my Word doc.

[I should say, they do a good epub. The .pdb--not so much.]

Hellmark · 08-23-2011, 06:27 PM

The problem with B&N, is while they use ePub, they use their own proprietary DRM. Can you upload to B&N without DRM, or is it manditory? If it is mandatory, then it would only be useful for a small portion of ePub users. Even if they did do DRM free, how many non nook users would buy from B&N? I know I don't go there since everything I've seen from them has DRM, and I don't have a nook. You may want to consider a place that supports the most common form of DRM, because even if you have your book available as DRM free, people will expect it to have DRM. Kobo may be a good choice, since I know they allow for DRM free books (although they have had a few issues with a publisher's books accidentally getting DRM slapped on. But that is being rectified as far as I know).

If you do not go the smashwords route, due to their submission process, then you may be best off manually submitting it to the multiple various stores they link to. Sticking with one store may alienate potential buyers who would expect the items they buy from that store to be incompatible with their reader. The only ones you'd manage to keep, are those who have the device supported by that store, or the ones who are specifically seeking your book and plan on stripping DRM and converting it if need be (which I'd say is a small group of people).

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08-23-2011, 01:37 AM	#185
osnova Kindler of the Flame Posts: 582 Karma: 646016 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: US of A Device: K DX,3,KT,KP,KF, KFHD; Nook C, PRS600, iPad, Xoom, N900, N810, Zaurus	When possible, I make both versions. However, for some of my complex publications, after many days of work I came to the conclusion that it is impossible to create a comparable epub (at least with all of the original features). I agree that for typical books this is not an issue.

08-23-2011, 02:40 PM	#191
DreamWriter Books are brain food. Posts: 2,950 Karma: 4836916 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: U.S. Device: Paperwhite · Fire HD6/HD8/HD10 · Galaxy Tab A7	Okay, I have a question for those of you who need ePub books. My husband's book is available as both Kindle e-book and paperback at Amazon. The Amazon Kindle version is DRM-free, but I realize that not everyone wants to (or knows how to) convert a file from Kindle format to ePub. I'm a Kindle user myself, and I must confess that I know little about other devices and where ePub readers purchase their e-books. My question is, if an ePub version is made available at Barnes & Noble online, would that be sufficient for users of ePub devices other than Nook?

08-23-2011, 03:10 PM	#193
DreamWriter Books are brain food. Posts: 2,950 Karma: 4836916 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: U.S. Device: Paperwhite · Fire HD6/HD8/HD10 · Galaxy Tab A7	Thanks, starrigger. I've been considering Smashwords too, but I'm not pleased that they only accept MS Word files and then convert to the various formats through their automated process. Frankly, I've seen quite a few Smashwords books that don't look very good. I prefer to have direct control over the end result, as proper formatting is very important to me. I hand-coded the HTML for the Kindle edition, and I'm very pleased with the results. But I don't want to exclude international ePub purchasers, so it may be necessary to include Smashwords as a distribution channel.

08-23-2011, 06:27 PM	#195
Hellmark Wizard Posts: 2,592 Karma: 4290425 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Foristell, Missouri, USA Device: Nokia N800, PRS-505, Nook STR Glowlight, Kindle 3, Kobo Libra 2	The problem with B&N, is while they use ePub, they use their own proprietary DRM. Can you upload to B&N without DRM, or is it manditory? If it is mandatory, then it would only be useful for a small portion of ePub users. Even if they did do DRM free, how many non nook users would buy from B&N? I know I don't go there since everything I've seen from them has DRM, and I don't have a nook. You may want to consider a place that supports the most common form of DRM, because even if you have your book available as DRM free, people will expect it to have DRM. Kobo may be a good choice, since I know they allow for DRM free books (although they have had a few issues with a publisher's books accidentally getting DRM slapped on. But that is being rectified as far as I know). If you do not go the smashwords route, due to their submission process, then you may be best off manually submitting it to the multiple various stores they link to. Sticking with one store may alienate potential buyers who would expect the items they buy from that store to be incompatible with their reader. The only ones you'd manage to keep, are those who have the device supported by that store, or the ones who are specifically seeking your book and plan on stripping DRM and converting it if need be (which I'd say is a small group of people).