[Old Thread] Calibre 0.8.15 - Languages Metadata Field

Ababakar · 08-20-2011, 05:06 AM

got a question regarding the new Languages Metadata Field...

I already created one myself - but as Custom Field i have to Switch the Tabs in the Metadata Editor - so yours is easier.

So: is there a way to Copy my existing Metadata Entries of my Language Field to the new Languages Field?? I used "Text with a fixed set of permitted Values".

Also: is there a way to limit the languages in the new field??? I only need 4 (English, French, Swedish, German) - so it´s much easier to choose them because there are no other ones starting with the same Letter (so just Typing E,F,S or G is enough).

cheers
ted

Divingduck · 08-20-2011, 08:08 AM

Same to me and easy job:
Sort your list by your custom language field and mark all books with the same language. Then right click --> edit metadada --> edit metadata in bulk. In the sheet basic metadata you will find the field languages. Select the language and apply the changes.

kovidgoyal · 08-20-2011, 10:05 PM

There's no way to restrict the list of languages, short of editing the source code.

lbik · 08-21-2011, 08:29 AM

Is it possible to add the language : Nederlands

kovidgoyal · 08-21-2011, 11:32 AM

The list of languages comes from the ISO 639 standard.

itimpi · 08-21-2011, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbik

Is it possible to add the language : Nederlands

Surely that is a country rather than a language? Would not the relevant languages be something like Dutch or Flemish?

Schaapje82 · 08-22-2011, 02:41 AM

When I import books into Calibre, it fills the language field, but most of the time, it's wrong. Is there a way not to fill out this field automatically, but only manual? It takes me more time to remove all the wrong info than adding the right info. And I only want to use the field for English books anyway, so when adding a book in another language, I want the field to be empty.

Quote:

Originally Posted by itimpi

Surely that is a country rather than a language? Would not the relevant languages be something like Dutch or Flemish?

By the way: 'Nederlands' is not the country, but the word for Dutch in Dutch. The country is 'Nederland'. And they don't speak Flemish in the Netherlands. They speak Flemish in Belgium.

Toxaris · 08-22-2011, 02:54 AM

If Kovid follows ISO 639 as he says, there should be an entry for Dutch.
From ISO639: dut/nla nl Dutch

I don't know if he uses the english names for the languages or the names from the native language itself. In the first case it would be 'Dutch', in the second 'Nederlands'.

lbik · 08-22-2011, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Would not the relevant languages be something like Dutch or Flemish?

"Dutch" is the english version of the original "Nederlands".
It cannot be right to mention all languages in the english version.

Please take the language "Nederlands" in the list, or give a possibility for a user defined language.

kovidgoyal · 08-22-2011, 11:07 AM

Language names are displayed in the language you select for the user interface.

AnneT · 08-22-2011, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schaapje82

By the way: 'Nederlands' is not the country, but the word for Dutch in Dutch. The country is 'Nederland'. And they don't speak Flemish in the Netherlands. They speak Flemish in Belgium.

Maybe you can say that here in Belgium we 'speak' Flemish, but I think you have to agree that we write Dutch.
Of course there are some differences, some different expressions, a different accent. But please... don't make it appear that we don't understand each other without a translator, as if we use different dictionaries...

Just like there is no 'German' and 'Austrian' in the list, there should be only 'Dutch' (or 'Nederlands') in the list

, not 'Dutch' and 'Flemish'.

lbik · 08-22-2011, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Language names are displayed in the language you select for the user interface.

YES, thank you Kovid. I have "german" as main language and now i found Niederländisch.

Norak · 08-24-2011, 12:43 PM

First of all, thanks for this useful addition!
As Ababakar has already mentioned, most users will only be using a small number of different languages. It would be really nice, if the most recently used languages would be shown on top of the list. There is a similar feature for font selection in a large variety of programs and I think it would be a great time saver.

kovidgoyal · 08-24-2011, 12:54 PM

Instead of browsing through the list, type the first few letters of the language, much faster.

Schaapje82 · 08-26-2011, 02:04 AM

Anything on the automatically filled in language? Can I turn that off?

08-20-2011, 05:06 AM	#1
Ababakar Member Posts: 23 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2011 Device: none	[Old Thread] Calibre 0.8.15 - Languages Metadata Field got a question regarding the new Languages Metadata Field... I already created one myself - but as Custom Field i have to Switch the Tabs in the Metadata Editor - so yours is easier. So: is there a way to Copy my existing Metadata Entries of my Language Field to the new Languages Field?? I used "Text with a fixed set of permitted Values". Also: is there a way to limit the languages in the new field??? I only need 4 (English, French, Swedish, German) - so it´s much easier to choose them because there are no other ones starting with the same Letter (so just Typing E,F,S or G is enough). cheers ted

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08-20-2011, 08:08 AM	#2
Divingduck Wizard Posts: 1,166 Karma: 1410083 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Germany Device: Sony PRS-650	Same to me and easy job: Sort your list by your custom language field and mark all books with the same language. Then right click --> edit metadada --> edit metadata in bulk. In the sheet basic metadata you will find the field languages. Select the language and apply the changes.

08-20-2011, 10:05 PM	#3
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,190 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	There's no way to restrict the list of languages, short of editing the source code.

08-21-2011, 08:29 AM	#4
lbik Reader Posts: 46 Karma: 162 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hannover Device: Kindle KB and Kindle Fire HD 8.9	Is it possible to add the language : Nederlands

08-21-2011, 11:32 AM	#5
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,190 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	The list of languages comes from the ISO 639 standard.

08-22-2011, 02:54 AM	#8
Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	If Kovid follows ISO 639 as he says, there should be an entry for Dutch. From ISO639: dut/nla nl Dutch I don't know if he uses the english names for the languages or the names from the native language itself. In the first case it would be 'Dutch', in the second 'Nederlands'.

08-22-2011, 11:07 AM	#10
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,190 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Language names are displayed in the language you select for the user interface.

08-24-2011, 12:43 PM	#13
Norak Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2011 Device: Kindle 3	First of all, thanks for this useful addition! As Ababakar has already mentioned, most users will only be using a small number of different languages. It would be really nice, if the most recently used languages would be shown on top of the list. There is a similar feature for font selection in a large variety of programs and I think it would be a great time saver.

08-24-2011, 12:54 PM	#14
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,190 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Instead of browsing through the list, type the first few letters of the language, much faster.

08-26-2011, 02:04 AM	#15
Schaapje82 Member Posts: 16 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: Bebook Neo	Anything on the automatically filled in language? Can I turn that off?