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Old 08-17-2011, 09:03 PM   #16
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:36 PM   #17
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Outside of the folks in a forum like this very few people know anything about the difference between the two file types. The percentage of those people who actually care is even smaller.
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another amazon/mobipocket debate, yes we need more of those
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:03 PM   #18
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I did not say "ePuff is superior to Moo-bi, so I'll download ePuff". I said 'whats my need'?

It was based on my favorite ereader software. In a few months, when Stanza no longer works with iOS 5, it will be the Kindle for iOS software.

Guess which version I'll use then?

In other words,
I suggest giving Bluefire Reader a try.

I wasn't suggesting one format was better then another. I was saying you did choose the format. You could have used other formats with other apps.

One thing I do think you will find to maybe be an issue is that Kindle for iOS has margins that are way way too large for an iPhone sized screen. There is no hack or way to change that. It's even worse then the margins for iBooks.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:03 PM   #19
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And if you own a reader that uses ePub, you buy ePub.
Well, you buy the ePub that has the appropriate DRM for your device.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:06 PM   #20
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I buy the ePub I can strip the DRM from and that means I can buy ePub from any store except Apple.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:28 PM   #21
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And The Help sold a million copies for just one device which kinda shows that ebooks are really taking off.

Or we could just have another format discussion.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:29 PM   #22
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An Open Statement to the Fans of "The Help"
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"On behalf of the Association of Black Women Historians (ABWH), this statement provides historical context to address widespread stereotyping presented in both the film and novel version of The Help.
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In the end, The Help is not a story about the millions of hardworking and dignified black women who labored in white homes to support their families and communities. Rather, it is the coming-of-age story of a white protagonist, who uses myths about the lives of black women to make sense of her own. The Association of Black Women Historians finds it unacceptable for either this book or this film to strip black women’s lives of historical accuracy for the sake of entertainment.
Full statement available at http://www.abwh.org/images/pdf/TheHelp-Statement.pdf
and as a community-discussion post at http://blackhistory.livejournal.com/264154.html

I really hate it when widespread oppression and struggles for basic rights become a backdrop for someone else's story, especially when those struggles are whitewashed so they don't interfere with the "main" story.

Several people and some organizations have pointed out that one of the reasons the book is so popular (which popularity will no doubt be extended to the movie) is that it reinforces the myth that black women are more interested in taking care of the white families who hire them than their own lives and families--that service is their "natural" role.

(And, yeah, this is somewhat tangential; political to the point of "off-topic"--but if we're going to discuss popular books, we should be willing to at least acknowledge how the communities represented in those books are reacting to them.)
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:35 PM   #23
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It is my third favorite. I use it for DRM e'Puffs from the library.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:36 PM   #24
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And The Help sold a million copies for just one device which kinda shows that ebooks are really taking off.
...or that the Kindle has really taken off.

Cool name. I intend to re-read that series soon.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:37 PM   #25
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Right on Elfwreck! I felt the same thing while this scion of Rhodesia was being interviewed about the memoir she wrote about her mothers colonial upbringing. The indigenous Africans were just scenery like the river.
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Old 08-17-2011, 10:47 PM   #26
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I really hate it when widespread oppression and struggles for basic rights become a backdrop for someone else's story, especially when those struggles are whitewashed so they don't interfere with the "main" story.

Several people and some organizations have pointed out that one of the reasons the book is so popular (which popularity will no doubt be extended to the movie) is that it reinforces the myth that black women are more interested in taking care of the white families who hire them than their own lives and families--that service is their "natural" role.

(And, yeah, this is somewhat tangential; political to the point of "off-topic"--but if we're going to discuss popular books, we should be willing to at least acknowledge how the communities represented in those books are reacting to them.)
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:13 PM   #27
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Anyway....

I still think it's somewhat telling that the other ebook retailers haven't professed similar sales figures.

FWIW it's also #1 on the NYT E-Book Fiction list. Not surprising, I suppose.
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:17 PM   #28
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That Moo-bi sure is whippin' the pants off that ePuff...
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Full statement available at http://www.abwh.org/images/pdf/TheHelp-Statement.pdf
and as a community-discussion post at http://blackhistory.livejournal.com/264154.html

I really hate it when widespread oppression and struggles for basic rights become a backdrop for someone else's story, especially when those struggles are whitewashed so they don't interfere with the "main" story.

Several people and some organizations have pointed out that one of the reasons the book is so popular (which popularity will no doubt be extended to the movie) is that it reinforces the myth that black women are more interested in taking care of the white families who hire them than their own lives and families--that service is their "natural" role.

(And, yeah, this is somewhat tangential; political to the point of "off-topic"--but if we're going to discuss popular books, we should be willing to at least acknowledge how the communities represented in those books are reacting to them.)
Dude, what are you doing?

Can't you see we're busy having a debate over ePub vs. Kindle?

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Full statement available at http://www.abwh.org/images/pdf/TheHelp-Statement.pdf
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I really hate it when widespread oppression and struggles for basic rights become a backdrop for someone else's story, especially when those struggles are whitewashed so they don't interfere with the "main" story.

Several people and some organizations have pointed out that one of the reasons the book is so popular (which popularity will no doubt be extended to the movie) is that it reinforces the myth that black women are more interested in taking care of the white families who hire them than their own lives and families--that service is their "natural" role.

(And, yeah, this is somewhat tangential; political to the point of "off-topic"--but if we're going to discuss popular books, we should be willing to at least acknowledge how the communities represented in those books are reacting to them.)
I read the book and I don't think it white washes anything. There is a real discussion about the financial, physical, and social danger that the women participating in the writing of the book are in. There is a real discussion of the biogtry and pettiness of White society. There is a real discussion of the hard lives that the Black women lead and insight into how those women viewed the White families they worked for.

There are two protagonists, one White and one Black. In the end, we are following both of their journeys. It does not delve into the entire history of the subject and glosses over some areas but I don't think that it reinforces any myths other then the White people where mainly bigots and did not want a change in the status quo.
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