On K4 Pins & Needles!!

[GoSharks]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I think I should probably quit while I'm ahead.

"I think you said.....my dog is dead......is this correct?"

[negatlov]

it's not worth waiting for the k4.

[ucfgrad93]

Originally Posted by negatlov

it's not worth waiting for the k4.

Why not?

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by GoSharks

"I think you said.....my dog is dead......is this correct?"

Yes, that's correct.

[Harry_Y]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Before this get too weird...

Voice activation could be a godsend to someone who is physically impaired. I would never dream of making fun of that. I'm only poking a little harmless fun at those who have full use of all their appendages and still think they need something like this. But then again... everybody has different wants/needs. I think I should probably quit while I'm ahead.

This was my thought.

My dad had a stroke and it caused him to loose fine motor control so
something like this would have been good for him (he has since passed).






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[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Harry_Y

I for one do not like touch screens and ANY fingerprints are too many.
Nor do I want to have to use something other than my finger to turn the page.

You do not need to use a stylus to turn the page. You can easily use a finger to change the page.

I looked ant the various readers then went out and bought Three kindles,
and may likely be buying a forth for my son because he likes them as well.

If your device is so great why do you feel the need to put down other
devices to try to convince yourself at to the superiority of your device?

It seems to me you are either Trolling or have a bad case of Kindle Envy.

I see people say they do not want/like a touch screen but they do not say why. Sure, looking at an original iPad, you'd see it's touch and show lots of fingerprints. But the screen on an IR touch with Pearl is different. So I'm asking why people dislike. If you've not tried, then you cannot base your opinion on LCD touch or Wacom eink touch. heck, even the touch layer Sony used to use doesn't count.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Badandy

There's nothing obsolete about downloading a book from Amazon's store and then reading it. After all, that's what the devices are made for. Continue your assault on .mobi and Amazon, because in the end, it puts words on the screen just fine.

I think you missed the point. The point is that Mobipocket is an obsolete format. Just because Amazon chooses to use it doesn't mean it's not obsolete.

It's helping to keep the eBook market fragmented. What we need to do is get Amazon off of Mobipocket and then we need to get rid of DRM. Then it will just be a case of which device you like better as they'd all be format compatible with ePub. Please, let's move forward, not backwards.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ovaldisk

I just read a cool and useful new feature on the upcoming Kindle 4. Apparently
it has a front facing camera. No, it's not used
for photos or video chat. The camera tracks the movement of your eye as you read.
When you eye has focused on the last word of the page(right bottom corner), the
new Kindle 4 will automatically go to the next page after a 1-second delay. This
means you no longer have to manually press a button to go to the next page.
(this feature can be turned on and off, but is shipped turned on by default)

I'm not buying that. It just sound like a load of rubbish. Please post a link to where you read this. It just doesn't sound like something Amazon would do. In fact, it sounds like something nobody would do.

[rheostaticsfan]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

That's what I'm waiting for - a smaller Kindle with a touch screen.

This. If it's not this, then I'm getting a K3.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I see people say they do not want/like a touch screen but they do not say why. Sure, looking at an original iPad, you'd see it's touch and show lots of fingerprints. But the screen on an IR touch with Pearl is different. So I'm asking why people dislike. If you've not tried, then you cannot base your opinion on LCD touch or Wacom eink touch. heck, even the touch layer Sony used to use doesn't count.

I've told you why, Jon, on several occasions. You seem to conveniently ignore those who don't share your opinions.

[kdgarris]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I see people say they do not want/like a touch screen but they do not say why. Sure, looking at an original iPad, you'd see it's touch and show lots of fingerprints. But the screen on an IR touch with Pearl is different. So I'm asking why people dislike. If you've not tried, then you cannot base your opinion on LCD touch or Wacom eink touch. heck, even the touch layer Sony used to use doesn't count.

I don't have experience with an eInk touch screen, so my dislike of the idea isn't based on that. I don't like the idea of fingerprints on the screen, as others have said, and I don't believe that there wouldn't be any to speak of, either. I don't think my precision would be good with a virtual keyboard unless I used a stylus, which I wouldn't want to have to worry about. It seems to me that the flow refresh of an eInk screen would make feedback on the virtual keyboard be too slow to be useful, again affecting typing precision.

I love having a physical keyboard - I use it mostly for the notes application, and when using the web browser. Precision aside, I can also type much faster with my thumbs on the physical keyboard than I could with an on-screen keyboard.

Finally, for me there is no real advantage to a touch screen. The main point would be to get rid of the physical keyboard, and reduce the size of the device. It is already the right size and shape in my mind, though - I like the feel of it in my hand. I can't imagine shrinking it more being a positive thing, personally.

All that being said, I am pretty sure I know which way the wind is blowing, and I imagine that the K3 will be the last one in the line to feature a physical keyboard. I hope mine lasts.

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I see people say they do not want/like a touch screen but they do not say why.

Pay attention... people tell you all the time you just don't accept the reasons.

My main objection is of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" variety. Touch just offers me nothing I need while adding bloat to the kernel and the OS (not to mention another potential point of failure).

Plus I love and regularly use the built-in keyboard for taking notes while proofing text. There is no need to call up an onscreen "touch" keyboard that will obscure a large portion of the text on the screen... you just start typing on the physical keyboard, then keep on reading.

And certainly not for lack of trying, touch screen navigation has just never come naturally or easily for me, so I prefer my devices to NOT have it (or at the very least offer me a hard-key alternative to every single "touch" function).

There. There's three reasons... without even mentioning fingerprints.

[pilotbob]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

For those of you who say you would dislike a touch screen reader, I'd like to ask a few questions.

Have you tried IR touch?
If you have, what did you dislike?

What is it about a touch screen reader do you not like?

Gee Jon... same questions to you...

Have you tried a Kindle with a keypad?
Have you tried a Kindle without ePub?
If you have what did you dislike?

Seriously, everyone has different likes and dislikes. What is important to one is not to the other. What bothers one person doesn't bother someone else. Even if your questions are answered you will discard them because they do not fit into your views of how things should work.

BOb

[lunixer]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

For those of you who say you would dislike a touch screen reader, I'd like to ask a few questions.

Have you tried IR touch?
If you have, what did you dislike?

What is it about a touch screen reader do you not like?

Several things. First, I want a dedicated ereader and I don't want my machine going in the "tablet" direction. Touch screen is the first step towards that and it worries me.

Second, I don't want fingerprints on my screen. They appear no matter what Amazon or Apple does, regardless of any "fingerprint-resistant" coating. Even if you only have to hover your finger.

Third, I like physical buttons. I hate typing on a touchscreen keyboard and really don't want to have to use the screen to page. Especially if they use gestures, which is likely.

Finally, it's a gimmick, and likely one that will increase the cost of the device.

That's all I can think of at the moment.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by HarryT

I've told you why, Jon, on several occasions. You seem to conveniently ignore those who don't share your opinions.

I know you have. But a lot have not. I'm generalizing.