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Old 08-13-2011, 07:10 AM   #16
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II don't understand why Amazon had to go and develop their own unique proprietary format...
Amazon's Kindle/Mobipocket format pre-dates ePub.
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Old 08-13-2011, 08:12 AM   #17
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II don't understand why Amazon had to go and develop their own unique proprietary format...
Actually, I think you just don't understand why they continue holding on to their format. Why they developed a unique and proprietary format in the first place is fairly self-explanatory. It's the same reason that Microsoft and Sony and others developed their own unique proprietary ebook formats.
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Old 08-13-2011, 09:08 AM   #18
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I always convert to epub format so that I can actually read the book as intended on my Sony reader. Of course this often requires first removing the DRM restriction so allowing me to use the book I have purchased. Actually removing the DRM is something I always do, even for books purchased in epub format. This is why I have been reluctant to purchase from Amazon recently, even if they offer a better price. It is my understanding that it is no longer possible to get rid of the new DRM they apply and this would make my purchase useless to me.
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Old 08-13-2011, 09:12 AM   #19
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I always convert to epub format so that I can actually read the book as intended on my Sony reader. Of course this often requires first removing the DRM restriction so allowing me to use the book I have purchased. Actually removing the DRM is something I always do, even for books purchased in epub format. This is why I have been reluctant to purchase from Amazon recently, even if they offer a better price. It is my understanding that it is no longer possible to get rid of the new DRM they apply and this would make my purchase useless to me.
Amazon's ebook DRM can still be removed as easily as ever. You just need to latest tools from Apprentice Alf.

It's Apple's ebook DRM that can't be removed.
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Old 08-13-2011, 11:14 AM   #20
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Most shops in Europe sells ePub, so i buy ePub.

All I want to do is reading, so the less step there is between me and my reading, the better.
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Most shops in Europe sells ePub, so i buy ePub.

All I want to do is reading, so the less step there is between me and my reading, the better.
I buy whatever format I can find, and use Calibre to convert it all to epub. Seems fairly easy to convert from epub to other formats at need and all my current readers use epub.
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Amazon's Kindle/Mobipocket format pre-dates ePub.
A good point, and one which I had forgotten.

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Actually, I think you just don't understand why they continue holding on to their format. Why they developed a unique and proprietary format in the first place is fairly self-explanatory. It's the same reason that Microsoft and Sony and others developed their own unique proprietary ebook formats.
Also a good point.

I probably could have stated it more eloquently, but it's really just the same frustration I had with Minidisc (Sony's stupidity), DVD-R/+R, and then HD-DVD/Blu-Ray... I understand that everybody is trying to get a slice of the pie, but it seems like they're all trying to get their own, very specific slice. It seems to me that the affected industry would probably benefit more from unification, seeing as there would be no confusion in the marketplace (which actually keeps some consumers from entering it at all, waiting for the eventual unification to occur).

It's less about which format is better, and more that I just freakin' wish everybody would pick one so we wouldn't have to worry about what books are going to work where, and conversion, and all that other idiocy.
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Old 08-13-2011, 02:05 PM   #23
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Once we standardize on ePub, we then have to either remove DRM or standardize on Adept DRM before we do away with DRM.

There really is no reason for Amazon to keep supporting Mobipocket given that it's two formats out of date.
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Old 08-13-2011, 03:56 PM   #24
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I only read / use epub. I have had poor experiences with books in PDF format. If the title is in the public domain I will convert it with Calibre. All other titles I buy from Sony.
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:25 PM   #25
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as i have only ever owned a kindle, my books are all mobi format. i had a pdf file once that i tried to read on my kindle, and it was PAINFUL. i found this thread really interesting however, as i learned a little about different formats.
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:39 PM   #26
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as i have only ever owned a kindle, my books are all mobi format. i had a pdf file once that i tried to read on my kindle, and it was PAINFUL. i found this thread really interesting however, as i learned a little about different formats.
If you turn the image to landscape, it's not a completely horrible experience...but it's close.
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:46 PM   #27
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If you turn the image to landscape, it's not a completely horrible experience...but it's close.
I routinely have pdf on Kindle experiences that range anywhere from "W...T... F??" all the way up to "well, that doesn't completely suck."
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Old 08-13-2011, 07:54 PM   #28
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Because I use a Kindle device, I read mostly .mobi and .azw files. I do have a few PDFs, but it can be a hassle to read them on the Kindle. Using landscape orientation does help sometimes, though.
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PDF is a HORRIBLE format for ereaders. If I get stuck with a PDF, I take a stab at converting it. If it comes out reasonably well, I'll put some effort in to clean it up and fix the formatting, depending on how badly I want to read it. Otherwise, I'll just read something else. I have a long to read list.
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With geographic restrictions, I buy what format I can, then convert it.

Calibre is my friend in that regard.

My preference is ePUB as all my readers have chosen that format to be the preferred format.
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