On K4 Pins & Needles!!

[voracious71]

Maybe they could do what the Nook ST( as well as the Sony's) did and have both touchscreen and physical page turn buttons.

But, I like the keyboard on my Kindle..

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by jswinden

I would settle for a K4 that had the following improvements as opposed to a new touch screen. I too am not that excited over touch screens--tried several and wasn't impressed.

Have you tried IR touch with a Pearl screen?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Tome Keeper

I don't like touch screens either. Last thing I want is lots of fingerprints when I'm trying to read.

I take it you have not seen an IR touch reader. You don't have to worry about fingerprints like you seem to think.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by chas0039

This is NOT false. I have seen the differences in the nook touch and others have reported the same thing. There have been posts on the nook site commenting on the same thing. Additionally, Amazon has expressed concern with their current touch model about the same thing.

There is no point in arguing this, I respect your opinion, however, please don't accuse me of spreading false information when so many others have experienced the exact same thing.

I have a 650. Your information is false. The IR touch does nothing to impede the clarity of the screen. Please stop spreading lies.

[JSWolf]

For those of you who say you would dislike a touch screen reader, I'd like to ask a few questions.

Have you tried IR touch?
If you have, what did you dislike?

What is it about a touch screen reader do you not like?

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

For those of you who say you would dislike a touch screen reader, I'd like to ask a few questions.

Have you tried IR touch?
If you have, what did you dislike?

What is it about a touch screen reader do you not like?

Yes, I have a Sony PRS-350 with an IR touch screen. What I don't like is that I have fat fingers and find the touch screen to be much less accurate than the Kindle's 5-way controller when it comes to such things as text selection or looking up a word in the dictionary. Sure, there are things it's better for: opening a book, for example, is much easier. But overall I much prefer the Kindle's physical keyboard and 5-way controller.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by chas0039

This is NOT false. I have seen the differences in the nook touch and others have reported the same thing. There have been posts on the nook site commenting on the same thing. Additionally, Amazon has expressed concern with their current touch model about the same thing.

There is no point in arguing this, I respect your opinion, however, please don't accuse me of spreading false information when so many others have experienced the exact same thing.

Look, chas, it's not an "opinion" that IR touch screens don't impact screen clarity, but a simple statement of fact. There is nothing on top of the screen. If a reader has a poor quality display it may have a number of causes (perhaps poor font rendering) but it's not the fault of the touch screen. How can something that's not physically there affect the screen?

When I do a side-by-side comparison of my Kindle and my Sony PRS-350 (which uses an IR touch screen) the appearance of the screens is identical.

[Papi]

Originally Posted by chas0039

This is NOT false. I have seen the differences in the nook touch and others have reported the same thing. There have been posts on the nook site commenting on the same thing. Additionally, Amazon has expressed concern with their current touch model about the same thing.

There is no point in arguing this, I respect your opinion, however, please don't accuse me of spreading false information when so many others have experienced the exact same thing.

Did someone come with a plausible explanation for this ? Because given the touch technology used for the Sony for example (not sure if the Nook and Kobo Touch use the same), I really don't see how it would alter the quality of the screen. Now there are other things as : the font used (were people able to compare with the exact same font ?), and what it seems to me like too much tolerance from Eink on the quality of the screen : for example, I once had the Sony PRS 650, PRS 350 and PRS 950, and the 950 seemed to have a noticeably greyer background, howere they all use the same touch technology. So it seems to me that there are different quality screens (as, I guess is the case for a lot of electronic components), but to the point the human eye is able to discern those differences.

[Torwan]

I've only had my Kindle3 for a few days, but my opinion...

Touchscreen:
No. I actually bought the Kindle because it has a real keyboard. I rather have a small, real keyboard instead of a usually unprecise touchscreen. Especially if I wanna read (!) on that touchscreen. I can't have dozens of fingerprints on it then...

Bigger screen:
Always nice, but also more expensive.

A few things I could think of (although I don't see them as vital):
- A faster processor that increases speed
- A bigger harddrive or the ability to expand it by SD-card
- Expansion of the audio-experimental-program. A manageable tracklist, the ability to go back a track instead of only going forward...that sort of thing.

Other than that my first impression of the Kindle3 is very positive, so I currently don't see much room for improvement. But maybe that's just my starter enthusiasm...

[Tome Keeper]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I take it you have not seen an IR touch reader. You don't have to worry about fingerprints like you seem to think.

Actually I have, my aunt brought her Kobo Touch over from the US during a recent visit and the screen had fingerprints on it, similar to the smudges I get on my Kindle screen when I touch it. Not impossible to read but distracting. Admittedly not as bad as LCD screens but still not good. The textured back thing on it also seemed to have several smudges as well.

[mewmartigan]

If Amazon releases a touch screen Kindle, I will buy on day 1. The last few rumors I saw were annoucements for the Tablet and K4 in August, with release dates in October.

I had a chance to play around with the Nook Touch the other day and was quite impressed by the touch interface. I won't stray from Amazon but would like to see a touch reader with no physical keyboard.

To those of you worried about fingerprints....don't be. The Nook on display at Best Buy had no fingerprints on it and I'm guessing it gets "touched" a lot. There is no glass screen like you have on smartphones.

Oh, Amazon, if you are listening....I want a touch screen but I still want physical page turn buttons!! (yes, I know the Nook Touch has them, and they are nice)

I am interested to see what Amazon has up their sleeve because it seems they are the reigning champs with the Kindle and it would almost be a little disappointing if they release something that is very similar to the Kobo and Nook touchscreens. I wonder what will separate them from the pack?

[ficbot]

The only issue I have had with my K3 is with the processor. It seems it has the capacity to store more books than what the processor could handle. I started getting navigation slowdowns at about 800 books and outright crashes at 900. When I got to 1000 books, it just kept rebooting and rebooting. But I had over 1.5 gb of space remaining on the Kindle. More storage space is not useful unless they have a processor that can actually handle that quantity of files. If this is improved, I would consider upgrading since I could sell my K3 and not have to pay too much more.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by ficbot

The only issue I have had with my K3 is with the processor. It seems it has the capacity to store more books than what the processor could handle. I started getting navigation slowdowns at about 800 books and outright crashes at 900. When I got to 1000 books, it just kept rebooting and rebooting. But I had over 1.5 gb of space remaining on the Kindle.

This is a sure sign of indexing issues. There's absolutely no reason that the Kindle can't handle several thousand books, but what can happen is that it will get "stuck" indexing a book; this can cause exactly the symptoms you describe. If it happens again, check to see if it's indexing and, if so, delete and re-load the book that's causing the problem.

[khmann]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

For those of you who say you would dislike a touch screen... troll...
Have you tried IR touch?
If you have, what did you dislike?

I type fast. Smartphone, desktop, iPad, whatever... eInk display isn't currently fast enough to keep up. I have tried Nook... I was _very_ impressed with the touchscreen. But I really don't think I could type without carefully watching what was entered onscreen for accuracy; with physical keyboard on Kindle I can be three or four key press ahead of the user interface.

[Kyste]

Originally Posted by HarryT

This is a sure sign of indexing issues. There's absolutely no reason that the Kindle can't handle several thousand books, but what can happen is that it will get "stuck" indexing a book; this can cause exactly the symptoms you describe. If it happens again, check to see if it's indexing and, if so, delete and re-load the book that's causing the problem.

He's got 1000 books on his machine. How do you determine which is the faulty book?