Germany Halts Distribution Of Galaxy Tab 10.1 In Europe (Except Netherlands) In Apple - Page 3

rhari79 · 08-11-2011, 11:19 AM

apple invented the square/rectangular tablets..why cant someone be really more innovative? the tablets i occasionally use are cylindrical or oval in shape..

Dulin's Books · 08-11-2011, 11:20 AM

The NL judge was less enamored of the the participants then the German judge

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/11/n...-courtroom-an/

aceflor · 08-11-2011, 11:35 AM

The German Judge was not enamored, he had no choice. It is an injunction, not more than that, the game is not over.

There is the same discussion going on where it should have taken place actually, on the news subforum. Could we carry on there ?

Dulin's Books · 08-11-2011, 12:24 PM

i was directed here by a post in that thread that said a discussion was already ongoing here in the android forum.

anyway : an article on Community Design and apples filing of multiple iterations as separate Community Design http://www.osnews.com/story/25056/Th...Was_Bad/page2/

anamardoll · 08-11-2011, 12:39 PM

Aceflor, I don't know the details, but one of the articles stated that the German court has a history of favoring patent holders over the sued parties. With the implication being that Apple was court-shopping. (I assume that's the source of the "less than enamored".)

I was surprised not to see it in the News forum and started that thread -- I'm happy to move there. I see this as "news", not "android". (It's just as much Apple as Android...)

aceflor · 08-11-2011, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anamardoll

Aceflor, I don't know the details, but one of the articles stated that the German court has a history of favoring patent holders over the sued parties. With the implication being that Apple was court-shopping. (I assume that's the source of the "less than enamored".)

I was surprised not to see it in the News forum and started that thread -- I'm happy to move there. I see this as "news", not "android". (It's just as much Apple as Android...)

Well, German courts are very careful so they will often issue an injunction to have the necessary quietness to do their research work.
I see this also as news, many similar threads that are here should in fact imho be in the news subforum, but apparently, our dear mods do not see it that way.

RockdaMan · 08-11-2011, 01:01 PM

It would probably be seen by a bigger audience in the news forum. Then this forum could be reserved for technical discussions only, not business and general.

aceflor · 08-11-2011, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockdaMan

It would probably be seen by a bigger audience in the news forum. Then this forum could be reserved for technical discussions only, not business and general.

My point exactly.

Thierry.C · 08-11-2011, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockdaMan

If they think they have been infringed, they should sue. If the judges agree they should find for Apple. If they don't agree, they should find for the others.

I agree with that, in some extent at least. However, what is annoying is that one can propose such ridiculous files for patents, "EU Community Design", or the like.
If I had some decision power on that, I would laugh at them (any of them, not just Apple).

Quote:

Originally Posted by aceflor

The German Judge was not enamored, he had no choice. It is an injunction, not more than that, the game is not over.

So again, the problem should be avoided up stream, with, e.g. , more restrictions on what is patentable (or the-like), and what is not (such as those drawings).

anamardoll · 08-11-2011, 03:46 PM

There's a big difference, though, in my mind between Apple saying "look, we trademarked this, it's ours now, deal" and Apple representatives shooting their mouths off about Samsung Galaxy "blatantly copying" them and similar terms. The outrage engine from Apple is getting tiresome -- when was the last time Apple did something completely from scratch without any precedence whatsoever? Oh, that's right, never: because technology doesn't work that way. Well, that's my 2 cents, anyway.

Cue in ten seconds:

Poster1: Apple did X first.
Poster2: No, Y did that before Apple.
Poster1: Oh, Y, they suck, that didn't count, it was so primitive.

At least that's how it went on the OP article comments.

RockdaMan · 08-16-2011, 02:44 PM

"The ban remains in place throughout Germany, but the slate can now be sold in all other parts of the European Union."

It has been partially lifted.

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08-11-2011, 11:19 AM	#31
rhari79 Addict Posts: 375 Karma: 2200000 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chennai Device: .*	apple invented the square/rectangular tablets..why cant someone be really more innovative? the tablets i occasionally use are cylindrical or oval in shape..

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Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	The NL judge was less enamored of the the participants then the German judge http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/11/n...-courtroom-an/

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aceflor Wizard Posts: 3,472 Karma: 48036360 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: where the sun lives, or so they say Device: Pocketbook Era, Pocketbook Inkpad 4, Kobo Libra 2, Kindle Scribe	The German Judge was not enamored, he had no choice. It is an injunction, not more than that, the game is not over. There is the same discussion going on where it should have taken place actually, on the news subforum. Could we carry on there ?

08-11-2011, 12:24 PM	#34
Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	i was directed here by a post in that thread that said a discussion was already ongoing here in the android forum. anyway : an article on Community Design and apples filing of multiple iterations as separate Community Design http://www.osnews.com/story/25056/Th...Was_Bad/page2/

08-11-2011, 12:39 PM	#35
anamardoll Chasing Butterflies Posts: 3,132 Karma: 5074169 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: American Southwest Device: Uses batteries.	Aceflor, I don't know the details, but one of the articles stated that the German court has a history of favoring patent holders over the sued parties. With the implication being that Apple was court-shopping. (I assume that's the source of the "less than enamored".) I was surprised not to see it in the News forum and started that thread -- I'm happy to move there. I see this as "news", not "android". (It's just as much Apple as Android...)

08-11-2011, 01:01 PM	#37
RockdaMan Banned Posts: 1,644 Karma: 213512 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: On the other side of over there Device: Pandigital Novel, Kindle G1 (broken), iPod Touch	It would probably be seen by a bigger audience in the news forum. Then this forum could be reserved for technical discussions only, not business and general.

08-11-2011, 03:46 PM	#40
anamardoll Chasing Butterflies Posts: 3,132 Karma: 5074169 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: American Southwest Device: Uses batteries.	There's a big difference, though, in my mind between Apple saying "look, we trademarked this, it's ours now, deal" and Apple representatives shooting their mouths off about Samsung Galaxy "blatantly copying" them and similar terms. The outrage engine from Apple is getting tiresome -- when was the last time Apple did something completely from scratch without any precedence whatsoever? Oh, that's right, never: because technology doesn't work that way. Well, that's my 2 cents, anyway. Cue in ten seconds: Poster1: Apple did X first. Poster2: No, Y did that before Apple. Poster1: Oh, Y, they suck, that didn't count, it was so primitive. At least that's how it went on the OP article comments.

08-16-2011, 02:44 PM	#41
RockdaMan Banned Posts: 1,644 Karma: 213512 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: On the other side of over there Device: Pandigital Novel, Kindle G1 (broken), iPod Touch	"The ban remains in place throughout Germany, but the slate can now be sold in all other parts of the European Union." It has been partially lifted. phandroid.com