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Old 08-03-2011, 09:02 PM   #391
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Old 08-03-2011, 11:34 PM   #392
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Thanks for reminding me of folks for whom English isn't their native language (and there are many here).

For those of you who didn't grow up speaking English all your lives, a "double-negative" results in a positive. Thus, if someone were to say, "I don't never do that," what they're really saying is, "I always do that," and in like manner, when someone says, "I don't owe you nothing," they're really saying, "I owe something to you."
Er, I know quite well about "double negative" (hey I'm in university already!!), what I wanted to say was why they said "I didn't do nothing" instead of "I didn't do anything"! So I thought you were misleading me Thus, I said after that: "modern grammar is a mess"

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Not just those whose mother tongue is not English, there would be very few Australian school children who know what a double negative is and probably not many young adults.
I think they all know about it, 2 no make a yes, or sort of, I just wanted to know why they use "wrong" grammar structure intentionally
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Old 08-04-2011, 12:03 AM   #393
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I think they all know about it, 2 no make a yes, or sort of, I just wanted to know why they use "wrong" grammar structure intentionally
Some people use the wrong grandma intentionally to take the piss. Some people just don't know that it is incorrect.
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Old 08-04-2011, 12:31 AM   #394
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Er, I know quite well about "double negative" (hey I'm in university already!!), what I wanted to say was why they said "I didn't do nothing" instead of "I didn't do anything"! So I thought you were misleading me Thus, I said after that: "modern grammar is a mess"
I knew that. I was trying to clarify it for our international audience (although most of them already speak better English than I do ).
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Old 08-04-2011, 05:00 AM   #395
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Being a foreigner from the outside I am well aware of double negatives.

Fact is that I am from Bavaria (southern part of Germany), and the bavarian dialect makes very creative use of the double negative:

Similar to some dialectal English, Bavarian employs both single and double negation, with the latter denoting special emphasis. For example, compare the Bavarian Des hob i no nia ned g'hört ("This have I yet never not heard") with the standard German "Das habe ich noch nie gehört".

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Old 08-04-2011, 11:24 AM   #396
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Speaking of double negatives... why are they saying "I don't know nothing" now, esp. the youth? "I don't owe you nothing"?
English (& most languages) don't use boolean logic. A double negative emphasises the meaning, rather then reversing it.

But I try not to use them myself.
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:06 PM   #397
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I'm painfully reminded of Mrs. Hartwig, my high school English (both grammar and literature). Using a double negative was good for a ruler across the knuckles. I appreciate her much more today than I did then.
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Old 08-05-2011, 03:50 AM   #398
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