To register or not?

DarkRose · 07-29-2011, 03:35 PM

I just did a factory reset on my kindle and I'm wondering if I should re-register it to amazon or not. I've only actually bought a couple of books from amazon and the rest I got from there when they were free.
I get most of my books through torrents so thats mainly why I'm asking. I'm just paranoid amazon is going to freak out over that and shut down my kindle or something lol.

HarryT · 07-29-2011, 04:14 PM

It's really not a terribly good idea to tell everyone that you've downloaded books illegally. Most people here believe in supporting ebooks and authors by buying their books. You're not going to win any friends by telling people how much stuff you've got illegally.

DarkRose · 07-29-2011, 04:30 PM

Thanks for the tip......now can anyone actually answer my question?

DiapDealer · 07-29-2011, 04:34 PM

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Thanks for the tip......now can anyone actually answer my question?

Yes, I'm almost sure someone can.

abookreader · 07-29-2011, 04:48 PM

That's a really interesting question. I'd suggest you call Kindle Customer Service with it. I'm sure they'd love to help.

Harry_Y · 07-29-2011, 05:48 PM

Dang I'm doing it wrong....

I actually Pay for my books and not steal them

DarkRose · 07-29-2011, 08:23 PM

Oh...I get it now...its totally cool to strip DRM, Hack and backdoor an ereader but its totally immoral to deprive the poor poor destitute author of the twenty cents he might have made off the sale of that book.....riiiight, god I'm such an awful person. How do I ever live with myself.

Harry_Y · 07-29-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkRose

Oh...I get it now...its totally cool to strip DRM, Hack and backdoor an ereader but its totally immoral to deprive the poor poor destitute author of the twenty cents he might have made off the sale of that book.....riiiight, god I'm such an awful person. How do I ever live with myself.

I do not see the correlation between: Stripping the DRM from a Book that you
purchased so it can be archived or Hacking an E-Book reader that you also
purchased to add features (most just do it for the screen saver) and stealing

Do you expect to be paid for your labors?

I expect to be paid for mine, and I would think the author also expects to be paid.

.

Alisa · 07-30-2011, 01:28 PM

Amazon does reserve the right to poke around on your Kindle in their terms of service. I believe it would be technically feasible to do if the Kindle were connected, regardless of whether it was registered. They certainly know who it was last registered to.

That said, I've never heard a whisper of them actually doing so. I think it would be dreadful PR if they did. I don't see an upside for them, either. It is not legally up to them to protect copyright if they are not the publisher (and usually they're not). They're better off not knowing if you're infringing or not. It would be a dangerous precedent for them to set if they got involved being copyright snitch.

AthenaAtDelphi · 07-31-2011, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkRose

I just did a factory reset on my kindle and I'm wondering if I should re-register it to amazon or not. (...) I'm just paranoid amazon is going to freak out over that and shut down my kindle or something lol.

Re-registering shouldn't be a problem .
Just be prepared for that knock on your door in the middle of the night .

karunaji · 07-31-2011, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillipA82

Just put yourself in the shoes of the author that you are stealing. Would you like that to happen to you.

It depends. Some authors encourage pirating of their books as widely as possible as a way of getting recognition. Some might even put them on torrent sites for others to download. Some are unsure but are not categorically against it. And of course, there will be others who see it as wrong. I guess that those authors who are already very popular and successful, see no need for pirating.

DiapDealer · 07-31-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by karunaji

It depends. Some authors encourage pirating of their books as widely as possible as a way of getting recognition. Some might even put them on torrent sites for others to download. Some are unsure but are not categorically against it. And of course, there will be others who see it as wrong. I guess that those authors who are already very popular and successful, see no need for pirating.

But in most cases, the authors who actively encourage the "pirating" of some of their works, do so in the hopes that those who like what they read, will eventually purchase other works of theirs, no?

The OP implied that they rarely purchase books:

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Originally Posted by OP

I get most of my books through torrents so thats mainly why I'm asking.

I'm sure that doesn't fit in with the ideology of most authors—even the ones who actively advocate the "pirating" of some of their works.

karunaji · 07-31-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

But in most cases, the authors who actively encourage the "pirating" of some of their works, do so in the hopes that those who like what they read, will eventually purchase other works of theirs, no?

Not necessarily. The person who pirates the book but never buys it might create interest in others to buy the book through word of mouth etc.

DiapDealer · 07-31-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by karunaji

Not necessarily. The person who pirates the book but never buys it might create interest in others to buy the book through word of mouth etc.

I can accept that.

But I can also understand the need to keep the number of people with that particular "job description" at a minimum—or at least an acceptable quota. So I don't feel the general discouragement of such behavior will be particularly contrary to the goals of those who are just looking for new "word of mouth" readers.

In other words... I view "you probably shouldn't" as less potentially harmful to the industry than "Go for it, they expect you to anyway" could be if widely adopted.

MyPreciousss · 08-01-2011, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I'm sure that doesn't fit in with the ideology of most authors—even the ones who actively advocate the "pirating" of some of their works.

Paulo Coelho is famous. His books are regular bestsellers.
And he himself pirates his book under 'Pirate Coelho'
http://paulocoelhoblog.com/category/pirate-coelho/

07-29-2011, 03:35 PM	#1
DarkRose Member Posts: 24 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Kindle 3	To register or not? I just did a factory reset on my kindle and I'm wondering if I should re-register it to amazon or not. I've only actually bought a couple of books from amazon and the rest I got from there when they were free. I get most of my books through torrents so thats mainly why I'm asking. I'm just paranoid amazon is going to freak out over that and shut down my kindle or something lol.

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07-29-2011, 04:14 PM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	It's really not a terribly good idea to tell everyone that you've downloaded books illegally. Most people here believe in supporting ebooks and authors by buying their books. You're not going to win any friends by telling people how much stuff you've got illegally.

07-29-2011, 04:30 PM	#3
DarkRose Member Posts: 24 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Kindle 3	Thanks for the tip......now can anyone actually answer my question?

07-29-2011, 04:48 PM	#5
abookreader Wizard Posts: 1,516 Karma: 2567610 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Kindles - Keyboard, Fire, 2-US, iPhone, iPAD	That's a really interesting question. I'd suggest you call Kindle Customer Service with it. I'm sure they'd love to help.

07-29-2011, 05:48 PM	#6
Harry_Y Addict Posts: 305 Karma: 704492 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NY Device: Kindle 3, Kindle DX, Galaxy Tab 2	Dang I'm doing it wrong.... I actually Pay for my books and not steal them

07-29-2011, 08:23 PM	#7
DarkRose Member Posts: 24 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Kindle 3	Oh...I get it now...its totally cool to strip DRM, Hack and backdoor an ereader but its totally immoral to deprive the poor poor destitute author of the twenty cents he might have made off the sale of that book.....riiiight, god I'm such an awful person. How do I ever live with myself.

07-30-2011, 01:28 PM	#9
Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	Amazon does reserve the right to poke around on your Kindle in their terms of service. I believe it would be technically feasible to do if the Kindle were connected, regardless of whether it was registered. They certainly know who it was last registered to. That said, I've never heard a whisper of them actually doing so. I think it would be dreadful PR if they did. I don't see an upside for them, either. It is not legally up to them to protect copyright if they are not the publisher (and usually they're not). They're better off not knowing if you're infringing or not. It would be a dangerous precedent for them to set if they got involved being copyright snitch.