iPad and E-Ink Reader

KindleKid · 07-13-2011, 08:30 PM

I'm wondering does anyone own an iPad or other tablet and an e- ink reader?

Aside from being a mobile devices geek like me, what would you say the benefit of having both is? Lets put aside the the argument over which is better for your eyes. What is practical about having both?

I'm asking because I have an iPad and am considering getting an e-ink reader again. My thoughts are:

1. More comfortable holding an eink device for longer periods.

2. Save battery on iPad for tasks better suited to it's abilities. Browsing, navigation, video, writing etc.

I would like to have both but I'm not sure if it's sensible or just excessive. Would love to hear people's thoughts. Do you have both or one and nmot the other?

HansTWN · 07-13-2011, 08:35 PM

Spending on new gadgets is never excessive... Now if I could only convince my wife!

timpearson26 · 07-13-2011, 09:11 PM

I have an ipad and am considering getting an eReader specifically for the reason of it being easier on your eyes. (although u said not to mention that point, so sorry

)

Also another point. I am trying to get away from watching so much TV and wanting to get into reading books. But me and my wife only have 1 ipad, so if we got an ereader we could read at the same time.

BTW we live abroad so getting english books is difficult. Maybe if we lived in US we would not need 2 devices.

pidgeon92 · 07-13-2011, 09:55 PM

There are loads of members here with ereaders and tablets. I've read a few books on my iPad, but find the reading experience on an eink screen to be more pleasant.

My Boox has a screen size that is similar to the iPad, and the weight is about the same.

Chi Cygni · 07-14-2011, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KindleKid

I'm wondering does anyone own an iPad or other tablet and an e- ink reader?
(...)

I would like to have both but I'm not sure if it's sensible or just excessive. Would love to hear people's thoughts. Do you have both or one and nmot the other?

I have both. They are not interchangeable for me. Ipad is a toy, sofa surfing, online sofa banking, shopping and newspapers but I would read books on it only if nothing else was available. I have a Cybook Opus which is a feisty little basic machine (my little R2D2) and just since July 8th I have a new Kindle. Ereader equals book to me and ipad equals computer. When I go to bed I take Opus and I have exactly the same feeling I used to have when stretching with a book in hand. Relaxation and reading. Ipad will never compete with this with "all that jazz". Is helpful though to type this post, nonetheless. To me having both is sensible and not at all excessive. Excessive was the Kindle (a bit) but now I have epub and mobi world available with no hassle plus 3G and free internet if necessary when I travel back to my country (or so I justify the inner gadget geek

)

montsnmags · 07-14-2011, 07:37 PM

Dear KindleKid. Yes.

Sorry, that's not much help, is it? What I mean is, I have an iPad, and for similar thoughts to yours, bought a Kindle. It works for me...the iPad probably gets used the most for its everything, but the Kindle is what I use for reading...it's like curling up with a small paperback, with no distractions and a certain lightness of feel (literal and metaphorical

). But I also know that (especially with the Kindle app), I've the the ability to use the iPad for reading when convenient (and sometimes just to refer to my library).

I was hoping, thought it would be, but was still surprised for my preferences, practices and subjectivity that they are complementary to each other (and the iPhone and desktop computer are the final complement to the four corners for me).

But always remember, it is likely most of us here are a bunch of enablers. Doooooo iiiiiiiiit!!!

Cheers,
Marc

brdwygurl · 07-15-2011, 12:55 PM

Not excessive

I have both and ipad and Kindle. I use the ipad for web, email, music/video and apps. I got a Kindle to read books for 2 reasons - the battery life and weight/portability.

The kindle is much lighter than the ipad. When I go out I don't always want to take my expensive and somewhat heavier ipad with me... but it's nice to be able to read while waiting, so the Kindle fits the bill. This weekend I will be sitting by the pool. I would never take a $600 ipad to the pool, plus there is the sun glare issue.

And the battery life on the ipad is ok, but not as good as the kindle. I found myself feeling "guilty" for reading for a few hours on the ipad...because of the added trouble of recharging. With the kindle I can read and read

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my ipad. It's just not my primary ereader.

osnova · 07-15-2011, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KindleKid

a mobile devices geek like me
What is practical about having both?
I would like to have both but I'm not sure if it's sensible or just excessive.

What kind of a device geek are you to be asking such questions?!

iPad is not for reading period (well maybe occasional reading when you can't find your ereader)

boswd · 07-15-2011, 03:13 PM

i have a nook color and the eink nook, both compliment each other very nicely. And with the prices coming down on the kinlde's, the nooks, and the kobo's I say why not go get one? All three have apps for your iPad as well.

SWyona · 07-29-2011, 12:39 PM

I like the idea of having 2 devices but I am confused over the discussion of contrast and 'easy-on-the-eyes' between e-ink and an LCD screen. Where is the evidence of the long term use of both screens? Personally, though I can use e-ink, I find the text muddled, lacking contrast, and difficult to read. On the other hand I find lcd screens, such as the iPad, clear and bright and have had no problem with 'tired eyes'. Perhaps this is an age issue. I have had many senior citizen readers complain about the contrast of Kindles and Nooks. Is there any research on this? Is age a factor?

KindleKid · 07-29-2011, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWyona

I like the idea of having 2 devices but I am confused over the discussion of contrast and 'easy-on-the-eyes' between e-ink and an LCD screen. Where is the evidence of the long term use of both screens? Personally, though I can use e-ink, I find the text muddled, lacking contrast, and difficult to read. On the other hand I find lcd screens, such as the iPad, clear and bright and have had no problem with 'tired eyes'. Perhaps this is an age issue. I have had many senior citizen readers complain about the contrast of Kindles and Nooks. Is there any research on this? Is age a factor?

Was trying to avoid this in the discussion. My initial post was about reasons other than the eye strain argument. Here's a helpful article for you though.

Short answer is that there's a difference but one is not worse than the other. Age might be a factor but it's generally what you are personally comfortable with. I'd say that age is too much of generalization. The fact that eye health changes as you age is more appropriate. Young and fit people can have bad eyes too; their own perception would influence their decision on what looks better.

darknessangel · 07-29-2011, 02:16 PM

Reader (PRS-505): novels and random books

iPad 1: technical pdfs and ebooks

works fine for me =D And no... since I spend most of my day in front of a monitor I'm don't whine about eye strain when reading on the ipad... I just dial down the brightness.

Skip Wyona · 07-29-2011, 02:55 PM

Thanks for the response. I did my own research and also found that there was little difference other then the reading habits of the reader and that the eye does indeed change with age. However there is another phenomena that I was not aware of but which I probably have and that is 'contrast sensitivity'. The solution with e-ink readers is to adjust the background and read in bright light.

Synergi · 07-29-2011, 02:57 PM

I have an iPad, Nook Color, Kindle 3 and Entourage Pocket Edge. I can't read books on iPad.. for me its to big to settle down and read a 500 page book. Also the text is not crisp as I would like it to be. That should clear up when the Retina displays are added on. iPad is good for Magazines, surfing, apps, etc..

Nook Color I have no problem reading on. The size of the Nook Color makes it much easier to handle for Books. Nook Color, good as a multi use device, but a bit small for a tablet in my opinion.

For me it depends on my situation. I'll read Kindle 3 during the day and sometimes I'll take the Nook Color to bed at night. Usually though, I plan to do a little surfing as well as reading and the Nook Color excells at those two functions where the Kindle3 is limited to just reading and the book store.

I do perfer the Eink screen to read on best. I like shopping for books in color since the cover is what usually draws me to a title. Its not quite the same in black and white.

Pinecone · 08-01-2011, 09:54 AM

Several people I know on other forums that had an eReader and got and iPad, are NOT getting rid of their reader.

The reader is optimized for reading, and therefore is better for that task.

07-13-2011, 08:30 PM	#1
KindleKid Zealot Posts: 115 Karma: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: iPad 2	iPad and E-Ink Reader I'm wondering does anyone own an iPad or other tablet and an e- ink reader? Aside from being a mobile devices geek like me, what would you say the benefit of having both is? Lets put aside the the argument over which is better for your eyes. What is practical about having both? I'm asking because I have an iPad and am considering getting an e-ink reader again. My thoughts are: 1. More comfortable holding an eink device for longer periods. 2. Save battery on iPad for tasks better suited to it's abilities. Browsing, navigation, video, writing etc. I would like to have both but I'm not sure if it's sensible or just excessive. Would love to hear people's thoughts. Do you have both or one and nmot the other?

07-29-2011, 02:55 PM	#13
Skip Wyona Enthusiast Posts: 32 Karma: 21188 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: none	Age and eyes Thanks for the response. I did my own research and also found that there was little difference other then the reading habits of the reader and that the eye does indeed change with age. However there is another phenomena that I was not aware of but which I probably have and that is 'contrast sensitivity'. The solution with e-ink readers is to adjust the background and read in bright light.

07-29-2011, 02:57 PM	#14
Synergi Addict Posts: 341 Karma: 4683770 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Kindle PW, iPadPro, Galaxy Note 5, 8 (tab) & Galaxy Tab S3	I have an iPad, Nook Color, Kindle 3 and Entourage Pocket Edge. I can't read books on iPad.. for me its to big to settle down and read a 500 page book. Also the text is not crisp as I would like it to be. That should clear up when the Retina displays are added on. iPad is good for Magazines, surfing, apps, etc.. Nook Color I have no problem reading on. The size of the Nook Color makes it much easier to handle for Books. Nook Color, good as a multi use device, but a bit small for a tablet in my opinion. For me it depends on my situation. I'll read Kindle 3 during the day and sometimes I'll take the Nook Color to bed at night. Usually though, I plan to do a little surfing as well as reading and the Nook Color excells at those two functions where the Kindle3 is limited to just reading and the book store. I do perfer the Eink screen to read on best. I like shopping for books in color since the cover is what usually draws me to a title. Its not quite the same in black and white. Last edited by Synergi; 07-29-2011 at 03:00 PM.

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HansTWN Wizard Posts: 4,538 Karma: 264065402 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Taiwan Device: HP Touchpad, Sony Duo 13, Lumia 920, Kobo Aura HD	Spending on new gadgets is never excessive... Now if I could only convince my wife!

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timpearson26 Enthusiast Posts: 26 Karma: 252616 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: ipad	I have an ipad and am considering getting an eReader specifically for the reason of it being easier on your eyes. (although u said not to mention that point, so sorry ) Also another point. I am trying to get away from watching so much TV and wanting to get into reading books. But me and my wife only have 1 ipad, so if we got an ereader we could read at the same time. BTW we live abroad so getting english books is difficult. Maybe if we lived in US we would not need 2 devices.

07-13-2011, 09:55 PM	#4
pidgeon92 Wizard Posts: 3,144 Karma: 8426142 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Device: Kindle PW2, Kindle Voyage, Kindle DXG, Boox M90, Kobo Aura HD	There are loads of members here with ereaders and tablets. I've read a few books on my iPad, but find the reading experience on an eink screen to be more pleasant. My Boox has a screen size that is similar to the iPad, and the weight is about the same.

07-14-2011, 07:37 PM	#6
montsnmags Grand Sorcerer Posts: 10,155 Karma: 4632658 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: none	Dear KindleKid. Yes. Sorry, that's not much help, is it? What I mean is, I have an iPad, and for similar thoughts to yours, bought a Kindle. It works for me...the iPad probably gets used the most for its everything, but the Kindle is what I use for reading...it's like curling up with a small paperback, with no distractions and a certain lightness of feel (literal and metaphorical ). But I also know that (especially with the Kindle app), I've the the ability to use the iPad for reading when convenient (and sometimes just to refer to my library). I was hoping, thought it would be, but was still surprised for my preferences, practices and subjectivity that they are complementary to each other (and the iPhone and desktop computer are the final complement to the four corners for me). But always remember, it is likely most of us here are a bunch of enablers. Doooooo iiiiiiiiit!!! Cheers, Marc

07-15-2011, 12:55 PM	#7
brdwygurl Connoisseur Posts: 69 Karma: 20354 Join Date: Apr 2011 Device: Kindle and iPad	Not excessive I have both and ipad and Kindle. I use the ipad for web, email, music/video and apps. I got a Kindle to read books for 2 reasons - the battery life and weight/portability. The kindle is much lighter than the ipad. When I go out I don't always want to take my expensive and somewhat heavier ipad with me... but it's nice to be able to read while waiting, so the Kindle fits the bill. This weekend I will be sitting by the pool. I would never take a $600 ipad to the pool, plus there is the sun glare issue. And the battery life on the ipad is ok, but not as good as the kindle. I found myself feeling "guilty" for reading for a few hours on the ipad...because of the added trouble of recharging. With the kindle I can read and read Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my ipad. It's just not my primary ereader.

07-15-2011, 03:13 PM	#9
boswd Banned Posts: 2,391 Karma: 1001781 Join Date: May 2010 Device: The Nook, Nook color and Droid X	i have a nook color and the eink nook, both compliment each other very nicely. And with the prices coming down on the kinlde's, the nooks, and the kobo's I say why not go get one? All three have apps for your iPad as well.

07-29-2011, 12:39 PM	#10
SWyona Member Retired Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: iPad	I like the idea of having 2 devices but I am confused over the discussion of contrast and 'easy-on-the-eyes' between e-ink and an LCD screen. Where is the evidence of the long term use of both screens? Personally, though I can use e-ink, I find the text muddled, lacking contrast, and difficult to read. On the other hand I find lcd screens, such as the iPad, clear and bright and have had no problem with 'tired eyes'. Perhaps this is an age issue. I have had many senior citizen readers complain about the contrast of Kindles and Nooks. Is there any research on this? Is age a factor?

07-29-2011, 02:16 PM	#12
darknessangel Addict Posts: 297 Karma: 1018140 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: PRS-505, iPad	Reader (PRS-505): novels and random books iPad 1: technical pdfs and ebooks works fine for me =D And no... since I spend most of my day in front of a monitor I'm don't whine about eye strain when reading on the ipad... I just dial down the brightness.

08-01-2011, 09:54 AM	#15
Pinecone Guru Posts: 902 Karma: 1660722 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Maryland Device: PRS-650, PRS-600, PRS-350	Several people I know on other forums that had an eReader and got and iPad, are NOT getting rid of their reader. The reader is optimized for reading, and therefore is better for that task.