|  07-26-2011, 11:35 AM | #1 | |
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				Missouri public school bans Kurt Vonnegut's 'Slaughterhouse Five'.
			 
			
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|  07-26-2011, 11:39 AM | #2 | ||
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|  07-26-2011, 11:42 AM | #3 | |
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 That is a well thought out process? | |
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|  07-26-2011, 11:48 AM | #4 | 
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			Banning books is just plain wrong. It's the parents responsibility, not the school system. If Wesley Scroggins doesn't want his children to read Slaughterhouse Five, more power to him. Don't tell me what my children can read.
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|  07-26-2011, 11:54 AM | #5 | 
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			Any time you bring religion into the process, you toss well thought out and flush it down the toilet. Basically, this is censorship.
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|  07-26-2011, 12:07 PM | #6 | 
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			I think it's awesome--what better way to drive kids to read great books than to publicly and loudly declare they shouldn't read them? Far better outcome for "education" than being forced to read it in a classroom.  I'll bet half the kids in the jurisdiction have the books already downloaded on their Ipods, Kindles, and phones. Point of pride. I covered the school board for 12 years, and if there is a deader, more rigid, and hopelessly failing bureaucracy than education, I haven't seen it, and I've covered government at every level. Not to minimize the great passion and dedication of our teachers, but they are getting ground beneath the stone. | 
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|  07-26-2011, 12:10 PM | #7 | 
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			Contrary to what parts of the Bible? Ignoring chunks of passages that don't portay their god as good and loving.    | 
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|  07-26-2011, 12:12 PM | #8 | 
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			So it goes.    | 
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|  07-26-2011, 12:46 PM | #9 | 
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			IMHO, it amounts to illegal violation of the separation of church and state.
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|  07-26-2011, 12:49 PM | #10 | |
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			I think it's best to allow Vonnegut to defend himself post-mortem with his own words: Quote: 
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|  07-26-2011, 12:52 PM | #11 | 
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|  07-26-2011, 01:02 PM | #12 | |
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|  07-26-2011, 01:10 PM | #13 | 
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			Removal from the library is what I object to.  Lesson plans can account for their narrow-minded provincial attitudes.  Hard to argue against a Missouri school board keeping their students in the lower percentile of education.  They must want their future neighbors to fit right in.  Can't have high school seniors exposed to adult topics, lol. But a library ban on a book already purchased? That's over the line, even if they did leave the door open for parent authorization to use those titles. | 
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|  07-26-2011, 01:19 PM | #14 | 
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			If there is one thing that will make a middle/high school student read a book is for a school district to ban a book. New of the banning spreads like wildfire and soon everyone is talking about it and is wondering why it was banned. One month later, a large amount of students have read the banned books. I can say this exact thing happened while I was in middle school. While not in our school district, one to the north of us banned "The Perks of Being a Wallflower" from school libraries. The news spread down to our school and soon everyone wanted to read it. The local library district only owned 4 copies and by the time I placed a hold on it, I was around 175 in place. I checked a week later and I was 170 out of 250. If school districts don't want students to read the books, don't talk about them and there will be very little interest in them. | 
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|  07-26-2011, 01:20 PM | #15 | |
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 "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. " I don't see anything that says Congress was involved in this decision. Further, the Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld the right of local communities to establish and maintain community standards. I really do wish people would READ the Bill of Rights. | |
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