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Old 07-21-2011, 07:25 AM   #16
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Gollancz to launch the world's largest digital SFF library

Gollancz, the SF and Fantasy imprint of the Orion Publishing Group, announces the launch of the world’s largest digital SFF library, the SF Gateway, which will make thousands of out-of-print titles by classic genre authors available as eBooks.

Building on the remarkable success of Gollancz’s Masterworks series, the SF Gateway will launch this Autumn with more than a thousand titles by close to a hundred authors.

It will build to 3,000 titles by the end of 2012, and 5,000 or more by 2014
Amazon have considerably more SF&F titles than that available now, so I'm not sure how this would be the biggest SF&F library?
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:57 AM   #18
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Amazon have considerably more SF&F titles than that available now, so I'm not sure how this would be the biggest SF&F library?
Amazon is not a publisher!!! People can publish their work through Amazon but they are their own publisher, Amazon is a retailer. Gollancz/Orion is a publisher and the titles are all from their own back catalogue that they have either in print or previously had in print but currently unavailable... this kind of thing is what many people have been complaining that publishers don't do so now we have one doing it and what happens? It gets written off in relation to a retailer!!! If you want to use that argument then most SF & Fantasy collectors have bigger libraries but , just like Amazon, we're not publishers!!!
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:36 AM   #20
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Plus, I'm pretty sure that Amazon doesn't consider themselves an SFF library (nor does anybody else) . Perhaps Gollancz should have said "the launch of the world’s largest digital, exclusively SFF library." That may have assuaged the nitpickers.

Probably not, though.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:58 PM   #22
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I figure Webscriptions has about 1200 ebooks now, with over 1000 from Baen alone. However, Baen's not likely to increase their ebook offerings to 3-5 thousand in 1-2 years. I'll be disappointed if they don't get digital rights for the entire world, or price them all in the $10-15 range.
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Amazon is not a publisher!!! People can publish their work through Amazon but they are their own publisher, Amazon is a retailer. Gollancz/Orion is a publisher and the titles are all from their own back catalogue that they have either in print or previously had in print but currently unavailable... this kind of thing is what many people have been complaining that publishers don't do so now we have one doing it and what happens? It gets written off in relation to a retailer!!! If you want to use that argument then most SF & Fantasy collectors have bigger libraries but , just like Amazon, we're not publishers!!!
It doesn't matter whether Amazon is a publisher. And no one is complaining about this development. But the PR statement:

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...announces the launch of the world’s largest digital SFF library, the SF Gateway....
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It doesn't matter whether Amazon is a publisher. And no one is complaining about this development. But the PR statement:

is just flat wrong.
Of course Amazon is not an SFF seller, it is selling all genres under the Amazon name so isn't an SFF Library like the SF Gateway but have the nitpick your way... you obviously know better...
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Amazon have considerably more SF&F titles than that available now, so I'm not sure how this would be the biggest SF&F library?
Amazon sells anything, Sturgeon's law to the extreme, one feature people hope for with the Gollancz is quality (and of course universal availability).

Basically a 'library' with selected good works with a good central interface beats the hell out of a warehouse that contains everything, perhaps buried under a complete mess.
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Of course Amazon is not an SFF seller, it is selling all genres under the Amazon name so isn't an SFF Library like the SF Gateway but have the nitpick your way... you obviously know better...
Gollancz is lying. They claim to have the largest SFF library and they don't. They don't claim to have the largest SFF libary *for a publisher.* They don't claim to have the largest SFF library among libraries that don't sell other genres.

They are just being dishonest. I don't like dishonesty. You can call that "nitpicking" if you want.
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Gollancz is lying. They claim to have the largest SFF library and they don't. They don't claim to have the largest SFF libary *for a publisher.* They don't claim to have the largest SFF library among libraries that don't sell other genres.

They are just being dishonest. I don't like dishonesty. You can call that "nitpicking" if you want.
I do and I did... congrats, get life and look at something important when spraying "Ooooh, it's dishonest" about when a) you're wrong, and b) there's real dishonesty going on in the world for you to hold up your noble outrage to...
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