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Old 07-19-2011, 03:22 PM   #151
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Your subject line had me concerned. I thought this was going to be about an attempt to alter copyright legislation to end Fair Use.
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Old 07-19-2011, 03:27 PM   #152
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For my Amazon books, I just d/l directly to my K3 (didn't even have K4PC installed.) Now it looks like I'll have to use K4PC and subsequently installed it yesterday getting the K4PC 2 which confused the heck out of me.

New workflow
- buy book
- send to K4PC 2
- import to calibre
- email to K3
You can still skip the K4PC part if you want.

Alternate workflow
- buy book
- download to PC for USB transfer (pick your Kindle as the target device)
- import to calibre (with a certain plugin configured with a Kindle serial number)
- email to K3
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Old 07-19-2011, 03:42 PM   #153
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Where can one buy "Unprotected" books?

For me I would prefer to buy an unprotected
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Old 07-19-2011, 03:53 PM   #154
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Old 07-19-2011, 03:56 PM   #155
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Where can one buy "Unprotected" books?

For me I would prefer to buy an unprotected
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Baen Webscriptions would be one place.

Also, as noted before, Amazon sells books that are DRM free if the publisher doesn't require it. I just bought one yesterday from Amazon tlhat had no DRM. If Amazon wanted to limit that sale to only a Kindle 4 whatever device, why would they sell it without DRM?
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Old 07-19-2011, 03:59 PM   #156
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Yes. Fair use is not anywhere in it. Not is your "right" to take things that don't belong to you.
Fair use is not about taking what doesn't belong to you. It's about fairly being able to use goods you borrow or buy.
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:07 PM   #157
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Angry Robot

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Angry Robot ™ is a global imprint dedicated to the best in modern adult science fiction, fantasy and everything in between. Our book line launched in July 2009, with both physical books across a wide variety of formats, e-books with audio to follow.

British-based but selling worldwide, our mission is to produce books that appeal to everyone, from post-Dr Who and Xbox fans to long-time genre enthusiasts.
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:14 PM   #158
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But that won't do for those of us in the USA. We'll be paying $7.24 (exchange rate as of this message). That kind of does away with any low prices they have.
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:35 PM   #159
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So far, I guess I'll continue to do what I have been doing. I buy the book, send to kindle then through usb open documents folder and get the book dedrmed that way. That is how I've been doing it since I got my kindle. I never realized how much trouble the k4pc issue was. I just knew I could never get it to work right. I hope this blows over and they don't do anything drastic. As it is I get a lot of books from other stores as well and then crack them to work on my kindle.
I like freedom of choice and not to be locked to one store as amazon wants. If they want to play dirty, I'll just buy elsewhere or borrow from the library. (Yes I've been reading library books on the kindle for a while now hehe) I think the book industry needs to wake up and take notes from what happened to the music industry. It seems like history is repeating itself. Borders= The Wherehouse or Tower Records. It is really sad.
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:38 PM   #160
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Your subject line had me concerned. I thought this was going to be about an attempt to alter copyright legislation to end Fair Use.
Good to know your concerns were groundless.
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:43 PM   #161
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You can still skip the K4PC part if you want.

Alternate workflow
- buy book
- download to PC for USB transfer (pick your Kindle as the target device)
- import to calibre (with a certain plugin configured with a Kindle serial number)
- email to K3
Just curious how download to PC for USB transfer is different from d/l to K4PC 2. Either case puts the file on the PC. Did I misunderstand your point?
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:55 PM   #162
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Just curious how download to PC for USB transfer is different from d/l to K4PC 2. Either case puts the file on the PC. Did I misunderstand your point?
Not sure if I am correct, but the way to bypass k4pc, is to download the book to your kindle, hook the kindle to the pc and then click on it to open up the documents folder. Find the book and transfer to calibre that way as the plugins for kindle are in calibre. Thats how I do it. I just don't want to get in trouble for being too specific on the forums.
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:56 PM   #163
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But that won't do for those of us in the USA. We'll be paying $7.24 (exchange rate as of this message). That kind of does away with any low prices they have.
Speak for yourself. They "do" just fine by me (in the USA). You don't think $7.24 and DRM free is a deal compared to agency pricing? Sheesh! You're hard to please.
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Old 07-19-2011, 05:00 PM   #164
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Just curious how download to PC for USB transfer is different from d/l to K4PC 2. Either case puts the file on the PC. Did I misunderstand your point?
It is different in that it does not involve using or even installing K4PC
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Fair use is not about taking what doesn't belong to you. It's about fairly being able to use goods you borrow or buy.
I know that, and you know that, and all reasonable people know that. Giggles seems to be a bit confused about it, though.
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