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Old 07-18-2011, 12:14 PM   #31
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So Amazon will allow you to d/load a kindle book in epub ?
No. One part of the DMCA clearly intends that you can guy a .mobi (or whatever they call it) file from Amazon, strip off the encryption, and convert it to an .epub to view on your Sony or nook or whatever. (Another part of the DMCA prohibts, more or less, producing or distributing - though not possessing - the tools necessary to do this. And the courts have not yet resolved this conflict.)
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Old 07-18-2011, 12:25 PM   #32
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Yet, most people don't care or understand because they keep buying Kindles and books from Amazon.
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Old 07-18-2011, 12:40 PM   #33
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A lot of us fought this exact same war with music, and expect it to go the same way.
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Old 07-18-2011, 01:02 PM   #34
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A lot of us fought this exact same war with music, and expect it to go the same way.
Isn't virtually all music now in DRM free MP3s?
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Old 07-18-2011, 01:29 PM   #35
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You're quoting a discontinued blog as evidence for your position?

Seriously?
It's not totally dead. That's where the announcement for the latest tools was made. So in that case, I'd call the blog far from dead.
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Old 07-18-2011, 01:31 PM   #36
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Translation, please. What has Amazon done?
Amazon is trying ot make it very difficult to get the PID when using KindleForPC. They are making changes that make it harder to find out what the program is doing to generate the PID. In a way, it's like Amazon is in favor of DRM.
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Old 07-18-2011, 01:34 PM   #37
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Correct. Soon the kindle related tools and plugins will not work and there will not be an update capable of making them work.

My original question still stands too, are the other drm schemes increasing likewise or just riding along?
No other DRM schemes are being made more difficult. It's only Amazon doing it.
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Old 07-18-2011, 01:40 PM   #38
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Isn't virtually all music now in DRM free MP3s?
It is, and the RIAA lost their war to have ripping and format shifting tools made illegal in a long and bitter fight in which their lobbyists (moneybags at hand) got legislation rammed through congress in the US only to see it struck down in constitutional challenges.

The book publishing industry is running an exact parallel, and their gameplay seems to be to try to get legislation passed but then avoid actually getting it enforced so it doesn't get struck down by the courts, who will surely follow precedent.

They have created a large paper mache scarecrow.
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Old 07-18-2011, 01:44 PM   #39
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Then it's time to grab the piñata sticks!
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Old 07-18-2011, 02:03 PM   #40
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In protest, I just bought a book from B&N. (not really a protest, I had a gift card to burn)

Well, maybe symbolically.
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Old 07-18-2011, 02:27 PM   #41
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I am not sure. I suspect that books you've already freed and added to a different book manager[say Calibre as opposed to the amazon manager] would be fine. But if you re-downloaded the books, I think you wouldn't be able to free them again.
I am running Kindle for PC version 1.4.1 and just downloaded a book. Freed it up. I think the original reference ton AA's blog was a heads up for future versions of Kindle for PC. Hopefully we can still use the older versions and things will 'work as they should'.

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Old 07-18-2011, 02:29 PM   #42
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Well, once they're free, they're free and backed up! But I certainly will now be even more hesitant to buy a Kindle book if I can't convert it to epub.
That is to say 'free up' and convert to whatever format I need at the time.

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Old 07-18-2011, 02:43 PM   #43
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I am running Kindle for PC version 1.4.1 and just downloaded a book. Freed it up. I think the original reference ton AA's blog was a heads up for future versions of Kindle for PC. Hopefully we can still use the older versions and things will 'work as they should'.

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I tried the same thing with a couple of current freebies using the Calibre plug-in, and had no problem.

Regarding Apprentice Alf--where do I look for the current postings? I see only the material from before he retired. Thanks.
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Regarding Apprentice Alf--where do I look for the current postings? I see only the material from before he retired. Thanks.
Look towards the bottom of the page

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I tried the same thing with a couple of current freebies using the Calibre plug-in, and had no problem.

Regarding Apprentice Alf--where do I look for the current postings? I see only the material from before he retired. Thanks.
I will send you a PM.

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Edited: I see Rich posted as I was sending PM.
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