|  07-03-2011, 04:42 AM | #1 | |
| Mrawr?            Posts: 1,109 Karma: 15039064 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: kindle 3 wifi | 
				
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			This is from an old article in the Washington Post on a little experiment with classical music. In a nutshell, this is what happened: Quote: 
 The full story here, complete with vids ------------------------ I'm not accusing commuters of not recognizing Bach (Lord, I wouldn't either) or the violinist. It just got me thinking, really, how many other extraordinary things do we walk past every day on our way to work, without looking, without stopping? Great story anyway. | |
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|  07-03-2011, 06:26 AM | #2 | 
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			It reminds me of an experiment in psychogeography conducted by Guy Debord and his friends of Situationist International 50 years ago. They plotted the whereabouts of several people on maps of Paris for a long time, and in the end showed that basically people behave like robots, always going around in the same ways, thus exploring only a tiny part of reality, knowing and discovering only few of the possibilities of life. Which is why Debord invented the "dérive". Guy Debord's Theory of the Dérive. A video of a dérive in Vancouver; dice are cast and the numbers indicate directions to follow (numbers may signify : cardinal points, distance, actions, such as riding a bus until the sixth stop, or entering the third shop, building, or bar, or following the fifth person passing by for three minutes, or turning right at the fourth crossroads). Many more psychogeographic videos on youtube. I watched the video of Joshua Bell from the article you linked to. I would have listened to the whole performance on that day, since I love Bach's partitas, and especially the third one, which he plays in the short video. Here is Itzhak Perlman playing it. The whole partita by Jascha Heifetz. | 
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|  07-03-2011, 07:03 AM | #3 | 
| Old Git            Posts: 958 Karma: 1840790 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Switzerland (mostly) Device: Two kindle PWs wifi, kindle fire, iPad3 wifi | 
			
			To be fair. Lots of people were probably in a hurry to get somewhere and under penalty for being late. I don't think standing around on a busy pavement on a cold January morning is probably an ideal time to listen to sublime music. (I usually give something to people who play half way decently, but I rarely hang around to hear more.)
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|  07-03-2011, 11:34 AM | #4 | 
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			Plus you need to be very cautious in DC. In fact, there are some areas in the District where the lawyers and politicians outnumber the humans!
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|  07-03-2011, 12:02 PM | #5 | |
| My True Self            Posts: 3,126 Karma: 66242098 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Trantor, Galactic Center Device: Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 | Quote: 
 But I do agree with TenaciousBadger, we neither, hear, nor appreciate all that is around us. Last edited by SameOldStory; 07-03-2011 at 12:05 PM. | |
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|  07-03-2011, 12:15 PM | #6 | 
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			Translation : "to be fair, lots of people are slaves of the capitalist machine and behave as good slaves should, making sure the machine will not have to wait for them."
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|  07-03-2011, 01:01 PM | #7 | 
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			60 minutes did a story on it and it seems the small children were the ones who noticed the music  playing the most.
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|  07-03-2011, 02:49 PM | #8 | 
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			Actually, now that I've been ruminating it over   I have arrived at the following conclusion: those who were meant to enjoy it, did. If you read the long Washington Post version, you'll see that a few passers-by did stop, namely those that were connoisseurs: they recognized the piece, the virtuosity or the violinist. So it did make sense for them. I posted the story because I shamefacedly have to admit that I would not have stopped. One I have never heard of.... (even now I have to check his name) Joshua Bell, and I would definitely not recognized the Bach. Now had it been some more mainstream names, like Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin, Vivaldi... Those tunes would have chimed differently with me, and I dare say the less sophisticated commuters of that train station. So maybe the experiment was unfortunately aimed at a very narrow audience. Still, the question stands, and I believe that at least once in our lives, everyone walks by a miracle (or more) and misses out on an opportunity to enrich their lives or at least their spirituality. | 
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|  07-03-2011, 03:19 PM | #10 | 
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			But you have to consider the fact that they deliberately chose a time and place for this where people were least likely to stop for anything even if they wanted to, and usually for good reasons.
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|  07-03-2011, 05:24 PM | #11 | |
| Mrawr?            Posts: 1,109 Karma: 15039064 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: kindle 3 wifi | Quote: 
 1. a metro station on a busy working day day 2. not a mainstream artist 3. not a mainstream composer 4. not mainstream a series of songs e.g. Chaconne by Bach, Ave Maria by Schubert (ok, Schubert might have been more familiar, Ave Maria sung in churches and by Celine Dion  . How many of us ever heard it on a violin? All these were deliberate choices and I believe they inevitably influenced the outcome. However, a select number of commuters were touched in one way or another: a few stopped before heading on, one actually approached Bell having recognized him, the baby wanted to hear more. A paltry number but then we've been lamenting the downfall of classical music for decades. So maybe the sample that did have a reaction is indicative of all those things coming together? Maybe the experiment was, after all, a success? @Lbooker: Never heard of psychogeography but glad you've brought it to my attention. Will study it more  To everyone, thanks for your pennies   | |
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