kindle 3 vs nook simple touch - Page 7

Meemo · 06-22-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Joanne29

the nook blows the Kindle out of the water

As a device, I'd agree that the new Nook ST looks great. I'm waiting for the K4, though - mostly because of the customer support area, where Amazon blows B&N out of the water.

SCION · 06-22-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Meemo

...I'm waiting for the K4, though - mostly because of the customer support area, where Amazon blows B&N out of the water.

Good one!

djulian · 06-22-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Meemo

As a device, I'd agree that the new Nook ST looks great. I'm waiting for the K4, though - mostly because of the customer support area, where Amazon blows B&N out of the water.

+1

Joanne29 · 06-25-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by booklover6

Not to me! Kindle is the only ereader to which one can email one's personal documents via the device's wifi.

you can add personal docs to the Nook as well very easily.

ProfCrash · 06-25-2011, 10:03 AM

You can add personal documents to all of them. I think that the Kindle is the only one you can email them to.

FerretMochaLatte · 06-29-2011, 09:19 PM

The no ePub argument that always comes up against the Kindle is not fair in my opinion.

There are hardly any DRM epub books that are not available for the Kindle in the .mobi or .amz file format, and the epub books that are not available for the Kindle are most likely DRM free.

You can convert the files using Calibre.

I guess when people think of ePub they think that B&N automatically syncs all ePub books that you put on your Nook. This is false as non-B&N DRM books will not be synced to your device. You will have to manually do it.

boswd · 06-29-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FerretMochaLatte

The no ePub argument that always comes up against the Kindle is not fair in my opinion.

There are hardly any DRM epub books that are not available for the Kindle in the .mobi or .amz file format, and the epub books that are not available for the Kindle are most likely DRM free.

You can convert the files using Calibre.

I guess when people think of ePub they think that B&N automatically syncs all ePub books that you put on your Nook. This is false as non-B&N DRM books will not be synced to your device. You will have to manually do it.

Sure it's fair. the advantage of ePub isn't so much the selection. It's two major things

1. You can shop around to take advantage of sales, discounts and promotions of other ebook stores

2. your epub library goes where you go. I have tons of epub books. If I decieded I want to go to Sony or Kobo etc. they come with me.

without having to go through the process of stripping and converting. And remember converting books from one format to another doesn't always come out clean. There are many times they become a mess.

So yes the ePub argument is fair.

HarryT · 06-30-2011, 01:24 AM

I buy numerous ePub books and convert them to Mobi format for the Kindle - it works just fine. I don't recall ever having had a significant problem.

ApK · 06-30-2011, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by boswd

1. You can shop around to take advantage of sales, discounts and promotions of other ebook stores

All four of them, at least two of which are unlikely to ever have a better deal than Amazon.
If looking for th best deal and selection is important to you, you'd be foolish to choose a reader that 'locks you out' of Amazon.

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2. your epub library goes where you go. I have tons of epub books. If I decieded I want to go to Sony or Kobo etc. they come with me.

without having to go through the process of stripping and converting. And remember converting books from one format to another doesn't always come out clean. There are many times they become a mess.

So yes the ePub argument is fair.

Fair, IF you don't convert them and IF you switch readers, two big IFs that have to occur together to be relevant and seemingly apply to almost no one, but if they apply to you, and matter to you, by all means, get an epub reader.

It is possible that there could be a problem in conversion, but like Harry, I've never noticed a significant problem, and it's just as likely to find a problem in source book to begin with.

ApK · 06-30-2011, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by boswd

Sure it's fair. the advantage of ePub isn't so much the selection. It's two major things

1. You can shop around to take advantage of sales, discounts and promotions of other ebook stores

2. your epub library goes where you go. I have tons of epub books. If I decieded I want to go to Sony or Kobo etc. they come with me.

So, say you shopped around and found the best deal at B&N, and those books use their proprietary DRM.
So remind us again how to you take those bargain B&N-type DRM books you found to your Sony or Kobo with out stripping?

ApK

ST-One · 06-30-2011, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ApK

All four of them, at least two of which are unlikely to ever have a better deal than Amazon.
If looking for th best deal and selection is important to you, you'd be foolish to choose a reader that 'locks you out' of Amazon.

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Originally Posted by ApK

So, say you shopped around and found the best deal at B&N, and those books use their proprietary DRM.
So remind us again how to you take those bargain B&N-type DRM books you found to your Sony or Kobo with out stripping?

Wow, you could work as a spin-doctor...

Other devices are "locked-out" of Amazon

because Amazon doesn't offer to license their DRM-scheme to the other reader-companies.

B&N, on the other hand, does exactly that - and, as far as I know, you can read B&N-books on a Sony-reader.

ApK · 06-30-2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ST-One

Wow, you could work as a spin-doctor...

Other devices are "locked-out" of Amazon

because Amazon doesn't offer to license their DRM-scheme to the other reader-companies.

B&N, on the other hand, does exactly that - and, as far as I know, you can read B&N-books on a Sony-reader.

The spin is only to cancel the ridiculous over-stated spin cast against the Kindle by some of you nook fanbois and to point out the reality.

As I've said numerous times, I don't see this as a significant issue on either side, and I can;t find evidence that any significant number of people do.

As for being able to read B&N type DRM on Sony, got any source, because last I heard here you could not. You could only read B&N DRM on nooks, and a few virtually unheard of second-tier readers.
Great if you can. I'm all for interoperability. But if not, please stop the lying.

ST-One · 06-30-2011, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ApK

The spin is only to cancel the ridiculous over-stated spin cast against the Kindle by some of you nook fanbois and to point out the reality.

Whatever.
The only reason I chose the Nook over the Sony what the price.

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Originally Posted by ApK

I'm all for interoperability.

Then you can't be for the Kindle/Amazon.

ApK · 06-30-2011, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ST-One

Then you can't be for the Kindle/Amazon.

Sure I can. And I can be for my Sony and the new nook I have an eye on too.
It's trivial for me to make everything work with everything.
It's current DRM mechanisms I can't be for. And that goes for B&N as much as Amazon.

p.s. I can also be for encouraging Amazon to support other formats, which I do.

booklover6 · 06-30-2011, 10:37 AM

You can authorize the Jetbook through ADE and then read B&N books on it. If you get books from B&N. I don't.

Go, Kindle! I'll take their DRM books any day. I won't buy DRM books anywhere else.

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06-25-2011, 10:03 AM	#95
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	You can add personal documents to all of them. I think that the Kindle is the only one you can email them to.

06-29-2011, 09:19 PM	#96
FerretMochaLatte Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 2142 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Device: Kindle 3, Nook STR, Thinking about a Kobo	The no ePub argument that always comes up against the Kindle is not fair in my opinion. There are hardly any DRM epub books that are not available for the Kindle in the .mobi or .amz file format, and the epub books that are not available for the Kindle are most likely DRM free. You can convert the files using Calibre. I guess when people think of ePub they think that B&N automatically syncs all ePub books that you put on your Nook. This is false as non-B&N DRM books will not be synced to your device. You will have to manually do it.

06-30-2011, 01:24 AM	#98
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I buy numerous ePub books and convert them to Mobi format for the Kindle - it works just fine. I don't recall ever having had a significant problem.

06-30-2011, 10:37 AM	#105
booklover6 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,545 Karma: 14008730 Join Date: May 2008 Location: PA (USA) Device: Kobo Clara, 2E, Libre 1, PW4, PW5, 2022 Kindle, Kobo Libre Colour	You can authorize the Jetbook through ADE and then read B&N books on it. If you get books from B&N. I don't. Go, Kindle! I'll take their DRM books any day. I won't buy DRM books anywhere else.