Consumer Reports: Nook Beats The Kindle - Page 15

ucfgrad93 · 06-23-2011, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Namekuseijin

users of Kindle are like users of Windows: they don't even know there're alternatives out there. They take for granted that it's what everybody uses.

They don't know either that one can read the whole Shakespeare without paying even 2 bucks. Kinda like iTards paying 99 bucks on every web-page-turned-app just for the sake of it.

So, anyone who uses a Kindle, Windows or Apple is just too stupid to know any better? Nice.

Ditchleyportrait · 06-23-2011, 02:55 AM

there's something to be said for downloading books in 60 seconds, but with the amount of time i waste, in general, i don't think i can make an argument for it without looking like a hypocrite. manually adding, converting all that requires a computer, but like i said, i imagine the time lost is negligible. then again one less thing to worry about, and the less i'm tied to a computer adding things to my e-ink device, all the better(!).

stickybuns · 06-23-2011, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ucfgrad93

So, anyone who uses a Kindle, Windows or Apple is just too stupid to know any better? Nice.

Well, as we all know, the competition to win the interwebs can get pretty intense. After all, international prestige and awesome prizes to be had!

Um... there's prestige and prizes, right?

ucfgrad93 · 06-23-2011, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by stickybuns

Well, as we all know, the competition to win the interwebs can get pretty intense. After all, international prestige and awesome prizes to be had!

Um... there's prestige and prizes, right?

No, I think it is more like this.....

elcreative · 06-23-2011, 03:59 AM

APK and others, so nice to know that your ANECDOTAL evidence is so superior to everyone else's... I bow to your superior collection of people that you see and know and who are obviously far more relevant than anyone (or anything) that I may know or deal with...

ST-One · 06-23-2011, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ditchleyportrait

i estimate that the kindle is the most user-friendly device on the market, for ease of use and convenience.

What would you do if you ever switch to another reader (Sony or Kobo) because your Kindle broke and you still have a lot of Amazon-books left to read?

Sil_liS · 06-23-2011, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bhartman36

But the store is a major part of the device. That's my point. Take away the store, and you're decreasing the value of the device considerably. If I had to buy my books from a store separate from the device, I'd be much more conservative on how much I'd pay for it.

As anamardoll said, those of us who contradict this statement, don't view the store as part of the device. So try to look at it from our perspective for a moment. If you look at what the device can do, and you compare the possible sources for ebooks, you have more options with the nook.

Sil_liS · 06-23-2011, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Namekuseijin

users of Kindle are like users of Windows: they don't even know there're alternatives out there. They take for granted that it's what everybody uses.

Actually, that isn't completely true. It's some users of kindle and some users of windows. And it is completely false when it comes to the members of this forum, because they actually know about most of the other options out there. They just choose to ignore them.

SCION · 06-23-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by stickybuns

I'm so glad that these blanket statements about Windows/Kindle/Apple users are going around. It was getting a bit chilly in here.

Witty!

ApK · 06-23-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by elcreative

APK and others, so nice to know that your ANECDOTAL evidence is so superior to everyone else's...

Whos?
The only person who actually cited even anecdotal evidence for a locking issue is anamardoll, and, oddly enough, it was regarding a SONY user, not a Kindle user.
Everyone else just says "everyone else is locked with the Kindle" and gives no evidence of any kind.

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I bow to your superior collection of people that you see and know and who are obviously far more relevant than anyone (or anything) that I may know or deal with...

I haven't seen indication that you know anything.

ApK · 06-23-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by stickybuns

I'm so glad that these blanket statements about Windows/Kindle/Apple users are going around. It was getting a bit chilly in here.

I realize how important it is to be the winner in a discussion on the internet, so allow me to just say, "Yes! You are a better person than me for having purchased product _________. Your consumer choices make you smarter/taller/handsomer than me. Clearly, I was a fool for purchasing ________ for myself and will hang my head in shame and sorrow from this day forward. Congratulations!"

Ooh! Mad Libs!

elcreative · 06-23-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ApK

The 'bull' was specifically regarding the idea that 100,000 could be dismissed out of hand as too small for a population of a few million. I know epidemiologists who would kill for a sample that large.

I heard national elections have turned on polling samples of mere hundreds.

The rest of your post, unless I missed something, basically said you don't think my opinion has a sound basis.

I note the success of the Kindle.
I note the general tone of customers on Amazon and other websites.
I note the specific polls and threads asking about it here.
I note the overheard conversations in stores as I hang around the ereader counter (as I often do).
I note the lack of mention of customer concerns in the trade press.
I note the anecdotal evidence presented to me as an IT professional from a fairly wide circle of friends, colleagues and clients.

The people who are warning people away from Amazon because of "lock in/out" APPEAR to me to be basing it in on imagined worst-case scenarios and anamardoll's mom.
Correct me if there is anything else informing their opinion.

ApK

OK... The 125,000 was number of members... this is NOT the sample as they don't all contribute to these threads and actually very few are regular contributors hence actual sample size is much smaller...

Yes, you got that one right, your opinion is no more sound than any other...

Your "I note" remarks are anecdotal as they stand and as I said mine were... and , if you actually looked, you will find nowhere on the entire MR forum where I attack the Kindle or any other reader... what I attack are presentations, of individual's comments, discussions, unattributed quotes etc, as facts...

ApK · 06-23-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by elcreative

if you actually looked, you will find nowhere on the entire MR forum where I attack the Kindle or any other reader.

Never said you did.

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.. what I attack are presentations, of individual's comments, discussions, unattributed quotes etc, as facts...

Everyone's or only those defending the Kindle?

anamardoll · 06-23-2011, 11:28 AM

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stickybuns · 06-23-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ST-One

What would you do if you ever switch to another reader (Sony or Kobo) because your Kindle broke and you still have a lot of Amazon-books left to read?

Well, I can only answer for my, uh, friend. Yeah.... that's it....my friend. She would just strip the DRM off those suckers and read those books on whatever device she pleases.

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06-23-2011, 02:55 AM	#212
Ditchleyportrait Fanatic Posts: 504 Karma: 780086 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: ny Device: Kindle DX Graphite	there's something to be said for downloading books in 60 seconds, but with the amount of time i waste, in general, i don't think i can make an argument for it without looking like a hypocrite. manually adding, converting all that requires a computer, but like i said, i imagine the time lost is negligible. then again one less thing to worry about, and the less i'm tied to a computer adding things to my e-ink device, all the better(!).

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elcreative Wizard Posts: 2,888 Karma: 5875940 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: PRS505, 600, 350, 650, Nexus 7, Note III, iPad 4 etc	APK and others, so nice to know that your ANECDOTAL evidence is so superior to everyone else's... I bow to your superior collection of people that you see and know and who are obviously far more relevant than anyone (or anything) that I may know or deal with...