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Halk · 03-09-2008, 08:32 PM

Order Total £ 283.52

Ordered!

binzer · 03-09-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Halk

Order Total £ 283.52

Ordered!

Congrats! I'm waiting for my too

I'll race ya :P

Halk · 03-09-2008, 09:32 PM

Well, it's only got to go from France to Scotland, so that should be quicker... but I imagine I'm much further down the list than you are. Also since I ordered on a sunday it's possible they've sold out what they had in stock, and I'm in for a long wait.

But... the race is on

JSWolf · 03-09-2008, 10:54 PM

Do you know you can ge a Sony Reader PRS-505 for £150 plus the cost to ship it? Well you can. I don't know what shipping would cost. But that does make the 505 that much cheaper then the Gen3 for UKers.

binzer · 03-09-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Halk

Well, it's only got to go from France to Scotland, so that should be quicker... but I imagine I'm much further down the list than you are. Also since I ordered on a sunday it's possible they've sold out what they had in stock, and I'm in for a long wait.

But... the race is on

Well, I only ordered mine a few days ago from BoB, and they should be sending it Wednesday or Thursday IF they get their shipment from Bookeen, which will probably give me a headstart. I chose slow ground shipping though, and packages sometimes get held up at the Canada/US border, so it should be quite the unpredictable race. Anyone wanna place bets?

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Do you know you can ge a Sony Reader PRS-505 for £150 plus the cost to ship it? Well you can. I don't know what shipping would cost. But that does make the 505 that much cheaper then the Gen3 for UKers.

Oh you and your shameless plugging of the 505

Just look at the poor pathetic Cybook forums. We need more people!

JSWolf · 03-10-2008, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by binzer

Oh you and your shameless plugging of the 505

Just look at the poor pathetic Cybook forums. We need more people!

I'm just stating a fact that a 505 from B&H will save a bit of money over a Gen3 if you live in the UK.

binzer · 03-10-2008, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I'm just stating a fact that a 505 from B&H will save a bit of money over a Gen3 if you live in the UK.

I know, I was teasing :P

HarryT · 03-10-2008, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I'm just stating a fact that a 505 from B&H will save a bit of money over a Gen3 if you live in the UK.

Certainly it will, but quality is worth paying a bit extra for

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Seriously, as you know, the Gen3 will do quite a few more things than the Sony will in terms of dictionary support, font support, etc. For me personally, that's worth paying a bit extra for. For others, it may not be - it's a personal choice.

Your figure of £150 is a little misleading, given that one will have to pay on top of that about 7% import tax plus 17.5% VAT, which brings it up to about £190, plus whatever "admin charge" the courier charges you - typically about £10. Say £200 in total. It's still cheaper than the £245 of the Gen3, but for me, it's worth £45 more.

One thing to bear in mind if considering the Sony is that if you buy it outside the US, you're effectively buying with no warranty - Sony will repair it, but they'll only ship it back to a US address. The Gen3 has a world-wide warranty.

gwynevans · 03-10-2008, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Your figure of £150 is a little misleading, given that one will have to pay on top of that about 7% import tax plus 17.5% VAT, which brings it up to about £190, plus whatever "admin charge" the courier charges you - typically about £10. Say £200 in total. It's still cheaper than the £245 of the Gen3, but for me, it's worth £45 more.

s/will have to/may have to/, actually...

Does that £245 include a case with the Gen3, or should one budget seperately for that, as the Sony includes a case that seems perfectly adequate for normal day-to-day use?

Halk · 03-10-2008, 05:37 AM

£283.52 is what it cost me for the Cybook, case and delivery. I didn't opt for anything else.

Edit : I should point out that the price I came up with for the Sony was just over £200. On top of that I'd need to buy a case. Fifty quid was what I saw as the difference between the two, and I was prepared to pay fifty quid for a product that was "legit" as far as the warranty goes. Dictionary support is worth about zero to me...

HarryT · 03-10-2008, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Halk

Dictionary support is worth about zero to me...

You may be surprised just how useful it is. I shared your view (ie that a dictionary isn't worth having) when I owned a Sony. When I got my Gen3 I bought a decent dictionary really just as an "impulse buy", and now I find it absolutely indispensible. I'd never bother looking words up in a paper dictionary, but dictionary lookup is so easy and so beautifully integrated with the Gen3 that now I find myself using it all the time.

Alisa · 03-10-2008, 01:39 PM

I agree. I can usually understand most terms from context even if they're old or obscure. I used to just satisfy myself with that, but it's interesting to have the real definition. Plus sometimes I get the feeling that an author is using a word I know but in a more nuanced way than I'm getting. It's nice to get a deeper understanding even of a word I know. Before, I wouldn't put down my book and interrupt the flow of my reading to go look it up. It's so easy when lookup is built in that it doesn't jar me away from the book.

Dictionaries aren't just for those with limited vocabularies. I could sit and play with a dictionary for hours. Words fascinate me on their own. I wish there was a good OED we could use on our devices.

Gudy · 03-10-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Alisa

Dictionaries aren't just for those with limited vocabularies. I could sit and play with a dictionary for hours. Words fascinate me on their own. I wish there was a good OED we could use on our devices.

That's a very good argument for not having a good dictionary on your e-book reader. If I had, I'd never get any actual reading done anymore. ;-)

JSWolf · 03-10-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Halk

£283.52 is what it cost me for the Cybook, case and delivery. I didn't opt for anything else.

Edit : I should point out that the price I came up with for the Sony was just over £200. On top of that I'd need to buy a case. Fifty quid was what I saw as the difference between the two, and I was prepared to pay fifty quid for a product that was "legit" as far as the warranty goes. Dictionary support is worth about zero to me...

As far as the 505 goes, you don't have to purchase a case for it. It comes with a simulated leather case. You can purchase a different case if you want, but no need if you don't want.

Halk · 03-10-2008, 04:10 PM

That's certainly an advantage the 505 has Jon, as I understand the Cybook all but needs the case, so anyone buying one is likely to buy the case as well. Perhaps a less expensive case from Cybook would be appropriate, even if it's simulated leather it's likely good enough for most people. Be nice if Bookeen got on the phone to Noreve and got something sorted out, Noreve are another French company, and they make very high quality cases for all sorts of electronic devices. Not likely to be a cheaper option though!

03-10-2008, 05:37 AM	#25
Halk Fanatic Posts: 538 Karma: 469999 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Sony PRS-650 (PRS+ alpha - thanks Kartu!)	£283.52 is what it cost me for the Cybook, case and delivery. I didn't opt for anything else. Edit : I should point out that the price I came up with for the Sony was just over £200. On top of that I'd need to buy a case. Fifty quid was what I saw as the difference between the two, and I was prepared to pay fifty quid for a product that was "legit" as far as the warranty goes. Dictionary support is worth about zero to me... Last edited by Halk; 03-10-2008 at 05:51 AM.

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Halk Fanatic Posts: 538 Karma: 469999 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Sony PRS-650 (PRS+ alpha - thanks Kartu!)	Order Total £ 283.52 Ordered!

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Halk Fanatic Posts: 538 Karma: 469999 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Sony PRS-650 (PRS+ alpha - thanks Kartu!)	Well, it's only got to go from France to Scotland, so that should be quicker... but I imagine I'm much further down the list than you are. Also since I ordered on a sunday it's possible they've sold out what they had in stock, and I'm in for a long wait. But... the race is on

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JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,294 Karma: 145488788 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Do you know you can ge a Sony Reader PRS-505 for £150 plus the cost to ship it? Well you can. I don't know what shipping would cost. But that does make the 505 that much cheaper then the Gen3 for UKers.

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Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	I agree. I can usually understand most terms from context even if they're old or obscure. I used to just satisfy myself with that, but it's interesting to have the real definition. Plus sometimes I get the feeling that an author is using a word I know but in a more nuanced way than I'm getting. It's nice to get a deeper understanding even of a word I know. Before, I wouldn't put down my book and interrupt the flow of my reading to go look it up. It's so easy when lookup is built in that it doesn't jar me away from the book. Dictionaries aren't just for those with limited vocabularies. I could sit and play with a dictionary for hours. Words fascinate me on their own. I wish there was a good OED we could use on our devices.

03-10-2008, 04:10 PM	#30
Halk Fanatic Posts: 538 Karma: 469999 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Sony PRS-650 (PRS+ alpha - thanks Kartu!)	That's certainly an advantage the 505 has Jon, as I understand the Cybook all but needs the case, so anyone buying one is likely to buy the case as well. Perhaps a less expensive case from Cybook would be appropriate, even if it's simulated leather it's likely good enough for most people. Be nice if Bookeen got on the phone to Noreve and got something sorted out, Noreve are another French company, and they make very high quality cases for all sorts of electronic devices. Not likely to be a cheaper option though!