Good service and quick turn around time

Originally Posted by fgruber

what is the issue with Yahoo mail? Is it the email app? or is it the web version that doesn't work?

Because yahoo free doesn't provide pop or imap for all I know. So don't see how it would work with the email app...

Yep, that's the issue. Yahoo doesn't provide free pop or imap access unless you are using an IP address served by a service provider who is paying them. This is not really a bug, but it is frustrating to users that are expecting a different behavior.

Then it should not be listed as an issue or a bug since it is not. It is a imposed limitation by yahoo to force people to pay for the email account.

Originally Posted by dontpanic

Yep, that's the issue. Yahoo doesn't provide free pop or imap access unless you are using an IP address served by a service provider who is paying them. This is not really a bug, but it is frustrating to users that are expecting a different behavior.

Originally Posted by dontpanic

Yep, that's the issue. Yahoo doesn't provide free pop or imap access unless you are using an IP address served by a service provider who is paying them. This is not really a bug, but it is frustrating to users that are expecting a different behavior.

Originally Posted by fgruber

Then it should not be listed as an issue or a bug since it is not. It is a imposed limitation by yahoo to force people to pay for the email account.

Yep. Much better framing of the issue.

Originally Posted by StevenP

Software bugs... sure, they exist. Find any bugs in Windows? I find bugs in Microsoft's software all the time. As a developer that uses their development tools I can point out tons of bugs they have. It's a part of life. As Donald Knuth has said (grandfather of Computer Science) programming is the most complex thing humans have ever done. Bugs happen.

Not all bugs are equal. These sound like pretty debilitating bugs. Unless...

Originally Posted by dontpanic

Yep, that's the issue. Yahoo doesn't provide free pop or imap access unless you are using an IP address served by a service provider who is paying them. This is not really a bug, but it is frustrating to users that are expecting a different behavior.

Wait, so the web version of the free Yahoo Mail still works? The "issues list" made it sound like it wouldn't. (I obviously can't check for myself since there's no way I'm installing the update until I'm sure it won't break my mail access)

Originally Posted by Chubulor

Not all bugs are equal. These sound like pretty debilitating bugs. Unless...



Wait, so the web version of the free Yahoo Mail still works? The "issues list" made it sound like it wouldn't. (I obviously can't check for myself since there's no way I'm installing the update until I'm sure it won't break my mail access)

It works fine.

Originally Posted by cheyennedonna

It works fine.

Very well. I will probably install the update.

I suggest Entourage change the "issue list" to make plain that it's only the mail apps that are affected, not the web version...to avoid any update avoidance on the part of less confrontational users than myself.

Originally Posted by Chubulor

Maybe Entourage should switch the public relations biz. They seem to have created a good impression in all of you guys despite the fact they're clearly incompetent at software development.

Ouch...that one hurt. You know Chubulor, developing a product isn't easy. Even a company like Apple, who have been around for over 30 years, have thousands of employees and lots of experience make products that have a few bugs. They can spend millions of dollars for an RF chamber and still release a phone that drops call when you hold it the wrong way. Maybe the word incompetent could be used when talking about a bug like that. But just because Yahoo wants you to pay them to access their servers directly doesn't make us idiots. Go try it on your Droid, Incredible, palm pilot, or even outlook express in windows.

I hope you decide to install the Dingo update, and not let a bug or two make you too grumpy.

I wrote that when it appeared that the web version of Yahoo Mail didn't work, which I think you would agree would have been a pretty debilitating bug for a device like the Edge. Now that it has been revealed that the problem only occurs with the mail apps, I retract that particular criticism.