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Old 06-05-2011, 02:02 PM   #136
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Funny aside - yesterday I was reading on my K3, and I tried to swipe the screen to turn the page.


Regarding the touchscreen, they will certainly go this road indeed but the full keyboard had always been a huge difference with the rest of the market so perhaps they won't drop it.
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...I went outside last night and read from about 10:30pm-12:00am and nearly melted then.
For the past couple of weeks I've been going out around that time! You're right about the sun thing here. It's June already; I should be able to hold off and see what Amazon come out with. By then I can circle back around to the NOOK Touch and see what has been improved. Maybe MyNOOK.com will be up and running by that time.

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Regarding the touchscreen, they will certainly go this road indeed but the full keyboard had always been a huge difference with the rest of the market so perhaps they won't drop it.
That would be a nice compromise if they can make the casing and keyboard attractive.
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Old 06-05-2011, 02:23 PM   #139
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Fantasy ereader time. Not that this will ever happen but wouldn't it be nice if the big players would license their reader firmware/apps to third-party reader manufacturers and allow them to modify the apps and design said readers with multiple, built-in reader apps?

It would be heaven to have an eInk and/or tablet reader manufactured by a third-party, reputable company that could not only read Kindle, Sony, Nook bought books, but allow you to seamlessly buy from their stores (and other stores) and combine the books into a single library. Of course the reader apps would have to be greatly improved by third-party developers rather than the lackluster apps released by the big players.

It will never happen for many reasons, but it is nice to dream.

BTW, I'm NOT talking about an iOS or Android tablet capable of running third-party reader apps wherein each app is totally independent of the other apps nor cooperates with the other apps. I'm talking about an entire reader system based on multiple apps working together and sharing a common library and bookshelf without any push toward any individual or group of bookstores.

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Old 06-05-2011, 02:28 PM   #140
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Yeah, I included them, but then deleted them since my phrasing was "touch and tablet" and I'm not sure that either of them have put out a tablet?

I guess there's Pandigital, but I don't really know the details on that one.
Sony has announced two (quite snazzy) tablets:

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/...haped-devices/

I'm not sure when they are going to be released.

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Fantasy ereader time. Not that this will ever happen but wouldn't it be nice if the big players would license their reader firmware/apps to third-party reader manufacturers and allow them to modify the apps and design said readers with multiple, built-in reader apps?

It would be heaven to have an eInk and/or tablet reader manufactured by a third-party, reputable company that could not only read Kindle, Sony, Nook bought books, but allow you to seamlessly buy from their stores (and other stores) and combine the books into a single library. Of course the reader apps would have to be greatly improved by third-party developers rather than the lackluster apps released by the big players.

It will never happen for many reasons, but it is nice to dream.
I love that idea.. yes, it is nice to dream.
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Old 06-05-2011, 02:35 PM   #141
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Fantasy ereader time...
THAT would be awesome! I'd be willing to pay a premium for an eink device capable of such. *recalls buying Sony 900 for $400*
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THAT would be awesome! I'd be willing to pay a premium for an eink device capable of such. *recalls buying Sony 900 for $400*
Yes, that would be the thing--the ereader would definitely cost more since it was no longer subsidized by a huge book store company. Plus there would be licensing fees. But I too would gladly pay a premium to get a reader that was designed to please us customers rather than just shoved in our faces by a big player with the attitude of take it or leave it.
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+1, Jack. I would totally buy that device. $400 would be a bargain.

'Course, I also want a third-party WEBSITE that contains all my store-bought content (Amazon, Kobo, B&N, etc.) and lets me organize my library online from there.

There we go with our dreamy little dreams.
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Old 06-05-2011, 04:15 PM   #144
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Fantasy ereader time. Not that this will ever happen but wouldn't it be nice if the big players would license their reader firmware/apps to third-party reader manufacturers and allow them to modify the apps and design said readers with multiple, built-in reader apps?

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It will never happen for many reasons, but it is nice to dream.

BTW, I'm NOT talking about an iOS or Android tablet capable of running third-party reader apps wherein each app is totally independent of the other apps nor cooperates with the other apps. I'm talking about an entire reader system based on multiple apps working together and sharing a common library and bookshelf without any push toward any individual or group of bookstores.
Well, we can ask Kovid to put Calibre into an e-ink reader for a start
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Old 06-05-2011, 05:17 PM   #145
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Fantasy ereader time.

This is a problem I have had with choosing an ereader. Everything is on my ipod touch without hassle. Not that calibre is a problem or converting or stripping DRM, but its just a couple of clicks and I'm reading from about any store.

I am glad I got organized using calibre though. Everything is in one spot now, easily moved around and backed up. I know I want a bigger screen that is e-ink.
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Yeah, I'm not referring to sideloaded content. Going forward I want to purchases books and be able to sync across devices. The Sony is out because they don't carry many of the books I'm interested in (non-fiction). Amazon has always been my preference for content, but I was willing to go with B&N because the NOOK app allows you to change line spacing and margins, and it has the same magazine functionality of the NOOKcolor. Nothing beats it for magazines, not even Zinio.

I need to mark up my non-fiction stuff, but if there are bookmarks and annotations on one device and not the other, it's not really useful. If they were able to be exported (in the manner that Moon+ Reader does), that would be acceptable. B&N don't give you much to work with.
Are the nonfiction books you are interested in available on kobobooks.com? Since Sony and Kobo use the same Adobe DRM, books bought from either stores are interchangeable on either device. Plus, you can price compare.

Also, rumors is that Amazon is going to release two tablets in the fall. They're like NookColor.

http://www.slashgear.com/amazons-7-a...iday-23153677/
"Amazon’s 7- and 10-inch tablets $349 and $449 this holiday?"

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...if you really need an eink device, then maybe you should just go with the Nook STR for now. Syncing last page read is better than nothing...
I went with this option and brought home the Touch. Should a touch Kindle be released sometime this year, I'll sell it for $90. Should be easy to get rid of shortly before the Christmas season.

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Yeah, I included them, but then deleted them since my phrasing was "touch and tablet" and I'm not sure that either of them have put out a tablet?

I guess there's Pandigital, but I don't really know the details on that one.
Sony has a tablet. Kobo does not have a tablet.
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The first thing I noticed is the screen is NOT grey!...
WRONG! Went back to check out the same demo, and it is indeed light grey. Noticed it wasn't as bright outside as it was during my initial visit. The display is directly in front of the main doors.
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I agree. I read a report that estimated the Amazon share of the eBook market at 65%, B&N had 25% and was in a distant second place. Whether you like them or not, Amazon is still ruling the market and probably will for some time to come.
Where did you read this American centric guess work article? Since ePub is the format world wide, I highly doubt that Amazon has 65% of the world's eBooks. Yet again, another article that cannot see beyond the USA and is full of guessing since Amazon does not give sales figures.
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