'Barnes & Noble clearly want consumers to think that this *is* a Kindle' - Page 4

caleb72 · 06-04-2011, 10:27 PM

I don't think you have to try hard to confuse people on what a Kindle is. So far, I've known several people who think a Kindle just means an eReader.

I've had to tell quite a few people that what they saw at JB Hifi, Officeworks and a number of bookstores was not a Kindle, nor was it a type of Kindle.

Usually what they've seen is an iRiver, Kobo or Hanvon.

Maybe Kindle will become like Hoover, where the brand becomes a common noun.

OtterBooks · 06-04-2011, 10:55 PM

On the Kindle, Twilight is written by Cormac McCarthy.

All these eink devices are the same thing with different places to put your thumbs. Just friggin pick one and read something.

CWatkinsNash · 06-04-2011, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OtterBooks

All these eink devices are the same thing with different places to put your thumbs. Just friggin pick one and read something.

caleb72 · 06-05-2011, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by OtterBooks

On the Kindle, Twilight is written by Cormac McCarthy.

If it was, I'd probably read it.

RockdaMan · 06-05-2011, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by boswd

you got that right, In my mind they're all Sansa's, I have both the clip+ and the Fuze, man they have THE best audio out there .

Yeah, but a sucky ecosystem.

taosaur · 06-05-2011, 04:15 AM

I've never encountered Kindle or iPod being used in the general way one says "Kleenex." About the only contemporary version of that phenomenon I've encountered is any and every Android phone being called a Droid, which seems to be on its way out. I suspect product cycles may move too fast these days for the emergence of "household names." I've heard people say of my Nook Color, "Oh that's one of those...like a Kindle?" because they weren't sure what to call the general class of devices (e-readers), but they knew in saying so that it was not a Kindle.

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Yeah, but a sucky ecosystem.

You're kidding around, but the absurdity of making that statement about a music player demonstrates how misguided it is to consider media "ecosystems" as a selling point. I'm not about to purchase a device or install a piece of software that makes it too great a burden to shop around, be it for books, music, software or video. I don't balk at purchasing files on one machine and transferring them to another, but if it's going to take more steps than that to use files from a retailer of my choice on your machine, I'm simply not buying your machine.

boswd · 06-05-2011, 09:09 AM

[QUOTE=RockdaMan;1568452]Yeah, but a sucky ecosystem.

[/QU

I use amazon mp3 thats linked to my media monkey. That combo is a much better ecosystem and management than what itunes offers

Phogg · 06-05-2011, 09:51 AM

I have noticed that Hondas look like Niissans.

Clearly the only possible explanation is that Honda wants people to think that their products are Nissan products.

Can I be a professional reviewer now?

taosaur · 06-05-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Phogg

Can I be a professional reviewer now?

No, but you can blog and tweet voluminously.

CWatkinsNash · 06-05-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by boswd

I use amazon mp3 thats linked to my media monley. That combo is a much better echosystem and management than what itunea offers

You use MediaMonkey?! I love MediaMonkey!! Even though I use iTunes with my iPod, I do all my music management in MediaMonkey, and of course I use it with my Sansa. I used the free version for years, but a couple of years ago I upgraded to Gold so I could use multiple libraries.

/threadjack over

Loosheesh · 06-05-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OtterBooks

On the Kindle, All these eink devices are the same thing with different places to put your thumbs. Just friggin pick one and read something.

Word!

RockdaMan · 06-05-2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by taosaur

You're kidding around, but the absurdity of making that statement about a music player demonstrates how misguided it is to consider media "ecosystems" as a selling point. I'm not about to purchase a device or install a piece of software that makes it too great a burden to shop around, be it for books, music, software or video. I don't balk at purchasing files on one machine and transferring them to another, but if it's going to take more steps than that to use files from a retailer of my choice on your machine, I'm simply not buying your machine.

You make a good point, but thats not what I was talking about at all. I was riffing on the secondary market of cases, athletic gear that works with such gear, other software, etc...

I don't buy music from Amazon or Apple unless it is, as it is in most cases, DRM free.

boswd · 06-05-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CWatkinsNash

You use MediaMonkey?! I love MediaMonkey!! Even though I use iTunes with my iPod, I do all my music management in MediaMonkey, and of course I use it with my Sansa. I used the free version for years, but a couple of years ago I upgraded to Gold so I could use multiple libraries.

/threadjack over

yeah MediaMonkey is quite incredible. the calibre of digital music managment.

teadonkey · 06-05-2011, 06:01 PM

What is this idea that Kindle users are Apple fans? I've read that in a few posts and... just no. I don't own a single Apple product, thanks. By choice.

And y'know what? I think the new Nook and the Kindle are similar, too. And I really like the new Nook. If I had any sort of money to do it, I'd even consider buying one and switching from Kindles. (I'm not sure if I WOULD, but I'd consider it.) So maybe there's something to B&N trying to draw in Kindle users. I absolutely HATED the Nook's navigation before, but now it's not too shabby.

RockdaMan · 06-05-2011, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by teadonkey

So maybe there's something to B&N trying to draw in Kindle users.

You're going to get an email from a rabid Nook fan.

06-05-2011, 09:09 AM	#52
boswd Banned Posts: 2,391 Karma: 1001781 Join Date: May 2010 Device: The Nook, Nook color and Droid X	[QUOTE=RockdaMan;1568452]Yeah, but a sucky ecosystem. [/QU I use amazon mp3 thats linked to my media monkey. That combo is a much better ecosystem and management than what itunes offers Last edited by boswd; 06-09-2011 at 11:57 AM.

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06-04-2011, 10:27 PM	#46
caleb72 Indie Advocate Posts: 2,863 Karma: 18794463 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia Device: Kindle	I don't think you have to try hard to confuse people on what a Kindle is. So far, I've known several people who think a Kindle just means an eReader. I've had to tell quite a few people that what they saw at JB Hifi, Officeworks and a number of bookstores was not a Kindle, nor was it a type of Kindle. Usually what they've seen is an iRiver, Kobo or Hanvon. Maybe Kindle will become like Hoover, where the brand becomes a common noun.

06-04-2011, 10:55 PM	#47
OtterBooks Wizard Posts: 1,262 Karma: 2979086 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kindle 4, iPad Mini/Retina	On the Kindle, Twilight is written by Cormac McCarthy. All these eink devices are the same thing with different places to put your thumbs. Just friggin pick one and read something.

06-05-2011, 09:51 AM	#53
Phogg PHD in Horribleness Posts: 2,320 Karma: 23599604 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the ironbound section, near avenue L Device: Just a whole bunch. I guess I am a collector now.	I have noticed that Hondas look like Niissans. Clearly the only possible explanation is that Honda wants people to think that their products are Nissan products. Can I be a professional reviewer now?

06-05-2011, 06:01 PM	#59
teadonkey Zealot Posts: 132 Karma: 2179008 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Kindle 3 WiFi	What is this idea that Kindle users are Apple fans? I've read that in a few posts and... just no. I don't own a single Apple product, thanks. By choice. And y'know what? I think the new Nook and the Kindle are similar, too. And I really like the new Nook. If I had any sort of money to do it, I'd even consider buying one and switching from Kindles. (I'm not sure if I WOULD, but I'd consider it.) So maybe there's something to B&N trying to draw in Kindle users. I absolutely HATED the Nook's navigation before, but now it's not too shabby.