The Dead Horse Thread - Page 3

paola · 06-04-2011, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by anamardoll

*note that it isn't mentioned that you will have to learn to love cabbages.

taosaur · 06-04-2011, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Ebook pricing, is still left.

That horse, I think, is still kicking and needs quite a bit more prodding.

aceflor · 06-04-2011, 07:37 AM

Oh no, you forgot GEOGRAPHICAL RESTRICTIONS : WHAT ARE THEY? WHAT ARE THEY FOR? WHY IS THE WORLD SO MEAN TO ME ?

Wetdogeared · 06-04-2011, 09:10 AM

PDF is not an eBook format.

Duck!

OtterBooks · 06-04-2011, 12:27 PM

*There's no justification for charging more for an ebook than a paper-book because zeroes and ones cost less than paper and ink.

*If i buy an ebook I own it and can do whatever I want with it.

*Ereaders will be $99 next year. $79 the year after. Eventually they will pay you to own one.

*OMG BORDERS FAIL

CWatkinsNash · 06-04-2011, 12:42 PM

Breaking News! Dead Horse being beaten, live on MobileRead: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=135635

anamardoll · 06-04-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CWatkinsNash

Breaking News! Dead Horse being beaten, live on MobileRead: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=135635

My god, that was a Zombie Horse thread.

Ima in your kindles, copying yur screzns.

vulcan_girl · 06-04-2011, 05:14 PM

BAEN DOES IT (insert your it) SUCCESSFULLY!

BAEN/AMAZON DOESN'T RELEASE NUMBERS!

Donnageddon · 06-04-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CWatkinsNash

Breaking News! Dead Horse being beaten, live on MobileRead: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=135635

Yeah that thread is particularly venomous... And no one survives unpoisoned.

leebase · 06-04-2011, 05:48 PM

LCD scenes fry your eyes and rot your brains.
Everyone reads out in bright sunlight all the time.

Lee

CWatkinsNash · 06-04-2011, 06:05 PM

And the related "Eyestrain from LCDs is a myth."

anamardoll · 06-04-2011, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CWatkinsNash

And the related "Eyestrain from LCDs is a myth."

At the risk of BEATING A DEAD HORSE, I think the jury may still be out on that. Anecdata aside, I haven't seen any genuine studies on LCD/eInk eyestrain.

Heck, I can't find a meaningful scientific definition of "eyestrain". If it's just "how people feel", that can be highly prone to suggestion. I'd like to see something measurably defined and studied.

I don't have a bone in the fight; I just don't think the tech has been out long enough for the medical fields to catch up. If we're building off anecdata, I personally don't get 'eyestrain' on eInk or LCD devices.

So probably the dead horse would be:

EYESTRAIN ON A <INSERT DEVICE HERE> IS INEVITABLE AND*/OR IMPOSSIBLE AND CLAIMING OTHERWISE IS A PRODUCT OF A DERANGED IMAGINATION.

* note that "inevitable" and "impossible" are mutually exclusive, but that's why it's a DEAD HORSE.

CWatkinsNash · 06-04-2011, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by anamardoll

At the risk of BEATING A DEAD HORSE, I think the jury may still be out on that. Anecdata aside, I haven't seen any genuine studies on LCD/eInk eyestrain.

LOL Yeah, I think the dead horse here is more along the lines of the posts that basically say, "I can read on an LCD with no problem so your problems are in your imagination." Another version of "If it never happened to me, it's not possible."

Edited to add: I actually do experience problems using a backlit LCD for long periods of reading. I have to look away frequently, which isn't conducive to getting into a good story. But then, I'm one of those people that has problems for an hour after a camera flash goes off near me.

anamardoll · 06-04-2011, 06:32 PM

That makes sense. I STRONGLY suspect that any real research is going to show that it's More Complicated Than That, and that eyestrain really depends a lot on the biology of the person reading, the ambient lighting conditions, and so much more than just EINK OR LCD?

Shimarenda · 06-04-2011, 06:35 PM

THIS FEATURE is unimportant to me, so no manufacturer/developer should include it.

06-04-2011, 09:10 AM	#34
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