AMAZON KINDLE BOOKS ON NOOK?

[anamardoll]

Originally Posted by ApK

I understand your Indie point now.
Yes, according to Smashwords, my primer will soon be on Kobo as well as the others, and my world domination will be complete!

ApK

I happily welcome our new Indie overlords.

[AnemicOak]

Originally Posted by anamardoll

I would use the Kobo coupons more if the books were LABELED "coupon compatible" in the catalog. I HATE getting to checkout to be told -- again! -- the publisher doesn't allow coupons, don't blame us!

If the book your interested in shows a percentage discount in its price at Kobo then you're good to go on using a coupon (I kind of look at this as coupon compatible labeling). If it doesn't then chances are it's an agency book so no discount is allowed.

[anamardoll]

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

If the book your interested in shows a percentage discount in its price at Kobo then you're good to go on using a coupon (I kind of look at this as coupon compatible labeling). If it doesn't then chances are it's an agency book so no discount is allowed.

Ah, very clever! I hadn't browsed the Kobo catalog enough to put that together. Thank you!!

[ApK]

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

If the book your interested in shows a percentage discount in its price at Kobo then you're good to go on using a coupon (I kind of look at this as coupon compatible labeling). If it doesn't then chances are it's an agency book so no discount is allowed.

Is that really reliable? I could be mistaken, but I had thought I noticed that while looking for stuff to use the recent $2 coupon on, and thought I immediately proved myself wrong.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by RAH

Yes, I agree that most ereader customers buy from the "integrated" store (as I do), which is B&N for the Nook. Yes, it does use a proprietary DRM, I believe.

However, I think the point is that Nook owners can buy from other vendors, even those who use DRM (except from Amazon). Kindle owners are more restricted, I believe, and can mostly only buy from Amazon.

You cannot buy eBooks from Apple for anything other then iBooks running on iOS 4.x.

Amazon cannot buy from any other shop if you are talking with DRM. Without DRM, any Mobipocket eBooks will do.

[AnemicOak]

Originally Posted by ApK

Is that really reliable? I could be mistaken, but I had thought I noticed that while looking for stuff to use the recent $2 coupon on, and thought I immediately proved myself wrong.

I don't know if it's 100% or not. I've purchased a ton of books (over 100) with their coupons and it's always been an accurate indicator for me.

[boswd]

Originally Posted by ApK

If you want to buy more mainstream copyrighted, publisher's books FROM PLACES OTHER THAN AMAZON. Yes.
But my point is there seems to be little reason for an Amazon customer ever to do so.

Certainly little reason when talking about B&N, Google Books or Sony.

I think our more legitimate disagreement might boil down to:
"Kobo or Amazon...who has the more of the best deals?"

That might make an interesting thread poll.

ApK

p.s. And of course, buying from any non-integrated store, even in the ADEPT world, usually invoves SOME additional hoops...can't buy from the device, etc. Yes, one or two additional and more significant (ethically and/or legally speaking) hoops on the Kindle side, no argument.

I agree with you for the most part, when all things equal I don't leave my nook ecosystem, but when I get great coupons from Kobo books, you bet your bippy I'm shopping there

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ApK

By the way, since you brought him up, I just took a look at Stephen King.
Same price all around that I see...why on earth would a kindle owner want to mess with ADE and cables as users of those other readers would do if they shopped off the device, when it's all the same price and can be bought at Amazon at the touch of a button?

(And he's cheaper in paperback than ebook?! I hate that. I like King, and I appreciate the value of ebooks, I really do, but that just seems wrong to me.)

950, new nook and new Kobo all have wireless integration to their stores. So I see the Kindle's experience as being nothing special these days. Others are doing the same thing just as well.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ApK

See my post #52 right above.

"Locked into Amazon" is a lie.
You mean "Locked out of 4 or 5 book sellers who, combined, don't seem to equal Amazon's selection, nor provide much compelling reason for an Amazon customer to shop at them," so say that. Tell the truth and there willl be little debate.

ApK

If you were an average person who did not know how to strip DRM and/or convert eBooks, then yes, your Amazon purchased with DRM eBooks would have you locked to the Kindle unless you didn't mind giving them up.

This is more true then there are people who can strip & convert.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by anamardoll

Of course, there might be small indie authors that have only bothered to publish a Kindle version, but other than that, I think the major publishers are dealing with all of the "Big Four", no?

If an indie author wants me to buy his/her eBook, the it had better be published someplace other then Amazon and Smashwords and in ePub.

I say Smashwords, because I don't buy from there because I hate their meatgrinder.

Originally Posted by jswinden

I'm not sure I would take at face value any numbers presented by any of the "Big Four" eBook sellers. They tend to get rather creative when declaring the size of their stock. For one thing they tend to include public domain books which are available elsewhere.

Amazon also includes public domain eBooks in their numbers and in fact, multiple copies too. So the because of this, Amazon's numbers do get inflated even more so.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by questionfear

The biggest thing is inertia, plus the ability to share with a spouse. That's what generally ties me into Amazon, since I started on a Kindle 1 and now own a K3...when my non-ebook reading spouse wants to read something from my library it's easy to just send the book to the K1 and let her use that. Familiarity with the store and devices is also why I bought my dad a K3 for his birthday, since I could help troubleshoot more easily.

Whispersync is an all or nothing deal. It is either on or it's off. You cannot turn it off for certain books/devices. So if your spouse decides to read the same book you are, you'll get no ends of hassle when your last read pages changes on you.

[ApK]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

950, new nook and new Kobo all have wireless integration to their stores. So I see the Kindle's experience as being nothing special these days. Others are doing the same thing just as well.

Point was on ANY of those devices, you'd need a compelling reason to shop at other than the integrated store, and there does not often seem to be one.

[ApK]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

If you were an average person who did not know how to strip DRM and/or convert eBooks, then yes, your Amazon purchased with DRM eBooks would have you locked to the Kindle

No, you could read them on any device that had a Kindle app, and also in so far as you may not be able to read some of your books on certain other devices, the same would be true for your Apple bought books, and your B&N-proprietary DRM books, too. So there is no big issue here. It's not a lock-in, it's some incompatibility that is not unique to Amazon. Would be nice if everything worked everywhere, but certainly not the issue some make it out to be.

Plus, since you are speaking of this supposed "average user" who can't do so much stuff, what are they doing buying multiple readers? Sounds like a hobbyist to me.....

[ApK]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Whispersync is an all or nothing deal. It is either on or it's off. You cannot turn it off for certain books/devices. So if your spouse decides to read the same book you are, you'll get no ends of hassle when your last read pages changes on you.

Ha! That didn't occur to me. I never ran into that between my wife and me, but it would have had me scratching my head.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ApK

Plus, since you are speaking of this supposed "average user" who can't do so much stuff, what are they doing buying multiple readers? Sounds like a hobbyist to me.....

The average user does not have multiple readers.