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Old 05-31-2011, 07:30 AM   #211
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There is room for 2 or 3 or perhaps 4 ebook platforms worldwide and, at this point, Kobo certainly appears to be playing a strong, not a weak, hand as was implied.

And this extremely bold claim is based on what, exactly?
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Your point being? It's obvious your device had that capability. But when they don't...
My point being that it's a valid request, and easily fixed in firmware, so there's nothing wrong with letting producers know that you'd appreciate that functionality.
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:27 AM   #214
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My point being that it's a valid request, and easily fixed in firmware, so there's nothing wrong with letting producers know that you'd appreciate that functionality.
They're all valid requests.

Now how long have people been asking B&N to implement landscape in the Nook? and how long has B&N ignored those requests? and how long will it be before those making these requests realize that B&N just doesn't care?
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They're all valid requests.
Very good. Let's keep it there.
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I'm not left-handed but usually hold my Sony 950 with my left hand. I have found it easy to swipe using my left thumb to get to the next page. The Sony 950 uses the IR touchscreen that Kobo will use, so I would expect the Kobo to work the same way. A slight swiping up and to the left with the left thumb changes the page to the next page; a slight swiping down and to the right moves to the previous page. My experience with the Sony 950 touchscreen convinces me that I would never go back to the button method of my Sony 505. I don't mean to imply that I never use the < and > page turn buttons on my 950, but I so rarely use them that it may as well be never.
Plus, I think I saw in the video for the new Kobo Touch that a simple tap on the screen turns the page (no swipe necessary). So as long as they put in some configuration options, page turning shouldn't be a problem (unless you require hard buttons).
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Most people don't read that type of material on their ereaders - they read novels; and for that, landscape isn't needed.
Do you have any statistics with external links to support that? I mean, that most people reads novels.

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They're all valid requests.

Now how long have people been asking B&N to implement landscape in the Nook? and how long has B&N ignored those requests? and how long will it be before those making these requests realize that B&N just doesn't care?
You are right on that and it is a real shame. On my particular case, Amazon bookstore and selection was another factor in choosing a Kindle over Nook, not just the device, but the new Nook touch could catch even more customers with simple changes like landscape mode.
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Old 05-31-2011, 10:17 AM   #218
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Do you have any statistics with external links to support that? I mean, that most people reads novels.
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Well I imagine that most popular books on B&N and Amazon store, kinda indicative at what most people read and hint it is not technical books.
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Well I imagine that most popular books on B&N and Amazon store, kinda indicative at what most people read and hint it is not technical books.
I agree, but some people need statistical proof from an independent third party or it ain't so.
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Old 05-31-2011, 11:25 AM   #221
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Didn't Amazon just do a test run to see if they could expand the market of their ereaders beyond the casual reader? I seem to recall something about them giving university students a DX model and running an experiment to see if students could study using only their ereader. That experiment failed. Some students struggled with trying to study on the Kindle DX, while others (not willing to sacrifice their GPA for an experiment) gave up and snuck in real text books to study.

IMO, some things are easier to read with paper books. If I'm studying and trying to absorb information, I want a paper book. I want to be able to flip and turn back and forth quickly. I need to spread text books and notes all around me (the dining room table is great for this!) to absorb information. I don't know why that is, I only know that it is. For casual reading I reach for my Kobo every time (which I love!) Obviously I'm not the only one who feels this way or Amazon would be trumpeting the success of their Kindles-for-university-students experiment. And I daresay other ereaders would have adopted some of those strategies to capture the academic market.
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Old 05-31-2011, 11:48 AM   #222
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Well I imagine that most popular books on B&N and Amazon store, kinda indicative at what most people read and hint it is not technical books.
If every single person bought 10 novels and one technical book, B&N and Amazon would still show the novels as being more popular buy a factor of ten, and every single person would still read technical books. That alone proves nothing. For example, I read novels a lot more than technical books, but I still occasionally use the landscape mode on the Kindle to good effect. (Even with some novels, that include maps or charts or specially formatted passages).
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Old 05-31-2011, 05:40 PM   #223
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This claim has been posted before -- that Kobo is in financial distress. This is twisting the actual facts and, in spite of your lead in, it is not fair.

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There is room for 2 or 3 or perhaps 4 ebook platforms worldwide and, at this point, Kobo certainly appears to be playing a strong, not a weak, hand as was implied.
My post was referring to Sony's claimed $3 billion loss, Kobo's $10 million and B&N's reduced net income. It wasn't my intention to imply any company was in "financial distress." But my last statement still stands. The ebook/ereader industry is a difficult one for non-Amazon companies.

In addition, what will happen when the digital book market levels off? These companies and/or divisions will need to be profitable soon while we're experiencing rapid growth. I'm not positive they can afford to introduce new ereaders every 12-18 months.

I too would like to see 4 or more platforms worldwide. Who has a strong or weak hand I don't know. Companies with a lot of cash and/or higher net incomes will fair better (and still be around) a year or two from now.
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I agree, but some people need statistical proof from an independent third party or it ain't so.
The simple truth is that the data is there, it is just held in secret by the ereader manufacturers. I propose we lobby congress to enact legislation to set our ereading statistical usage data free as the air, for all to pore over. For no other reason than to enlighten these discussions ever more.
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Proof that people most read novels on their readers?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/digital-text

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/ebooks/bestsellers.asp

http://kobobooks.com/top50.html

Oh wait, I'm sure ALL of these companies are actually selling tons of poetry books and technical manuals, and keeping it a secret.

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