|  05-29-2011, 11:36 PM | #1 | |
| Ninja Librarian            Posts: 179 Karma: 347750 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denmark Device: Sony PRS-950, Cybook 3. gen, Sony T1, Kindle Paperwhite | 
				
				Are Publishers, to Blame For The Decline Of Books?
			 
			
			Haven't seen this article posted here, but found that it raised some interesting points: Due to the Forbes terms of conditions, I'll only headlight the key points, rest you have to read in the link below: Quote: 
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|  05-30-2011, 01:02 AM | #2 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,310 Karma: 43993832 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Monroe Wisconsin Device: K3, Kindle Paperwhite, Calibre, and Mobipocket for  Pc (netbook) | 
			
			I think it comes down to not keeping up with the times. As stated there are more options now and publishers need to accept and work with the new world of publishing if they are going to survive.
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|  05-30-2011, 02:32 AM | #3 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,262 Karma: 2979086 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kindle 4, iPad Mini/Retina | 
			
			Publishing was in decline long before ebooks came around, or even the internet. As if that analysis weren't dumb enough, the author goes on to say "Amazon killed browsing. You go on, you find the book you wanted, you pay, and you leave. So instead of buying five books, you buy just one." Killed browsing? Has this guy ever used Amazon? That place hits my wallet more than going into any physical bookstore. I discover more titles there than I ever have on shelves. He even claims that publishers aren't putting out books people want to read. Huh? Trash has always been around, as have tons of good works. What, pray tell, sort of books does the author feel need to be published that aren't? He doesn't say, and doesn't know, because he pulled that claim out of his !@#. Publishers may indeed be screwing up in many ways..but his points were fairly asinine from start to finish. It was an amusing read, though. Last edited by OtterBooks; 05-30-2011 at 02:36 AM. | 
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|  05-30-2011, 05:58 AM | #4 | |
| Fanatic            Posts: 565 Karma: 1113286 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sunshine Coast Australia Device: Kobo (RIP), iPad, iPhone 4, Kobo Touch x2, Kobo Glo | Quote: 
  I buy far more books now than I ever did before I got my ereader. A quick look through my book shelves shows me that I regularly purchase 2 or 3 books at a time. I can't remember doing that very often with paper books. Also I visit Amazon or Kobobooks at least 3 or 4 times every week. I used to go to a bookstore once a week at most. For me it's much easier to buy books now - I can do it in my pyjamas at midnight if I want to. | |
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|  05-30-2011, 06:08 AM | #5 | 
| intelligent posterior            Posts: 1,562 Karma: 21295618 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ohiopolis Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2, Samsung S8, Lenovo Tab 3 Pro | 
			
			The primary point the article raised is that the author's books don't sell, and he suspects these internets he's been hearing about may have something to do with it.
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|  05-30-2011, 07:43 AM | #6 | 
| Ninja Librarian            Posts: 179 Karma: 347750 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denmark Device: Sony PRS-950, Cybook 3. gen, Sony T1, Kindle Paperwhite | 
			
			I don't agree with everything in the article, (especially not the Amazon bit, as Amazon is a case study in how to push additional sales on customers through the recommended features), however I think the overall message is an interesting one. The online business model for ebook sales is radically different than the old physical one. Publishers needs to adapt to the changing marketplace or it's to the detriment of consumers and authors aswell. | 
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|  05-30-2011, 08:25 AM | #7 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,546 Karma: 37057604 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Pocketbook | 
			
			At east he wasn't blaming everything on piracy...
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|  05-30-2011, 09:10 AM | #8 | |
| Tea Enthusiast            Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2 | 
			
			Actually, he was partailly blaming piracy. Quote: 
 I have spent more on books since I was given a Kindle then I did before. I would go to the bookstore once a month and buy 4-5 books. I am buying far more then that now and I have bought a decent amount of my paper collection on my Kindle. I agree that the Publishers are using a bad business plan. I don't think that they choose the greatest books to publish but that is not limited to books on 9/11 or President Obama. I don't think they have done the best job of changing with the times. They should be looking at the romance novels and how they are changing and adapting to e-books. I think that well known authors will be happy to leave the publishing houses as soon as they can and receive the larger royalties. | |
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|  05-30-2011, 09:25 AM | #9 | |
| Zealot            Posts: 132 Karma: 2179008 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Kindle 3 WiFi | Quote: 
 AND I agree that there have always been crap books, crap ideas, crap everything. That isn't new. People have always had bad ideas and people have always had good ideas. I really love whenever anyone tries to blame the 'downfall' of something on any one thing. Firstly, reading is on an uptick, not a decline. So I'd like to know where he got his information. Secondly, just like everything in the history of the world, everything rises and falls and a lot of times rise again, and there isn't ever one thing, or sometimes anything at all, to blame. | |
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|  05-30-2011, 09:46 AM | #10 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,196 Karma: 70314280 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Pro, iPad mini, Kobo Aura, Amazon paperwhite, Sony PRS-T2 | 
			
			The fundamental idea that the book publishing business is broken and we are going to see radical change in the business model isn't exactly new or all that startling.  IMPO, Amazon and eBooks is a god send for the mid list authors, who never quite made it to the NYT's best sales list, but have enough name recognition, fans and backlist to make a good living if they are willing to put the effort into marketing themselves on the internet.   An author, or group of authors who band together and develop a vibrant online community can really do well. The problem is that online communities take a lot more work than most authors are willing to do. When the Baen community was at it's peak, it was probably the model of how to do things. Well monitored, with plenty of authors posting on a regular basis to keep interest up, plus Baen pioneered the use of snippets to generate interest in upcoming books. Most of the author sites that I've been to recently are basically fan sites where the author only shows up occasionally. | 
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|  05-30-2011, 10:18 AM | #11 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,747 Karma: 3761220 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Pennsylvania Device: T1 Red, Kindle Fire, Kindle PW, PW2, Nook HD+, Kobo Mini, Aura HD | 
			
			Since this is not a well-known author (I gather), he should be embracing the Amazon's, Smashwords, etc. of the world and not trying to bash them.  How many unknown or Indie authors ever made it to shelves in bookstores, or even had their book published before this "internet thing" came along?  If they were in the store at all, their books were way in the back in a corner, or on the top shelf where you really couldn't get to them anyway.  At least with ebooks they have a chance.  But, as someone pointed out above, it takes work.  So instead of blaming others for their books not getting out there, get with the program and do a little self-promoting.
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|  05-30-2011, 10:41 AM | #12 | 
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			Im with you guys, I spend more now on amazon than I ever did in a bookstore. With forums and review sites im more likely to buy multiple books.
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|  05-30-2011, 11:26 AM | #13 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,262 Karma: 2979086 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kindle 4, iPad Mini/Retina | 
			
			As to why publishing is in decline, I can only surmise. Primarily I think it has more to do with the changing landscape of entertainment. We're awash in a sea of instant, passive entertainment available 24/7.  The issue of people reading less in general is a cultural issue way bigger than anything the publishing industry has done. The effects of book pricing, ebooks and IP management are small potatoes compared to the forces at work beyond their boardrooms. imo. | 
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|  05-30-2011, 11:49 AM | #14 | 
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			The old publishing business may be dying but there's more reading and writing going on than ever.
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|  05-30-2011, 12:38 PM | #15 | 
| Zealot            Posts: 104 Karma: 263218 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Sony PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Arc 7 | 
			
			One more thing about Amazon - for physical purchases, the minimum total to qualify for free shipping always gets me to add an extra movie or book.  They really are the how-to guide for selling online.  I am far more likely to find a book I want, or discovered I want, on Amazon than in my local bookstore, where I can't see the virtual links between shelves and sections (liked this?  90% also liked that). I don't believe book publishing is dying, but it is changing significantly. I hope the author's idea of market-drive, focus-group-suggested topics dies on the vine - that killed pop music for me, I don't want it to infect book publishing. | 
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