Speculation thread: How will Amazon react to new Nook and Kobo? - Page 6

ST-One · 05-27-2011, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by booklover6

Well yeah, the kindle won't take epubs etc. Just as Nook won't read drm mobi, right?

Yeah.
Or put differently: Except for Amazon all the ebook-stores are open to me - all the ebook-stores but Amazon are closed for you.

AnemicOak · 05-27-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by apastuszak

I believe everybody except Amazon and B&N use ADE DRM.

And Apple (of course you need an iThingy to even buy from them).

booklover6 · 05-27-2011, 06:45 PM

That is so not true! A common error that people make. I can and have bought many books from fictionwise for my kindle. I have also bought books from on line publishers for my Kindle. In fact, I have only bought 3 or 4 books from amazon for my Kindle. The rest have ALL come from other sources.

kranu · 05-27-2011, 07:16 PM

Oh come on guys!

We all know that Amazon is just waiting for this thread to come to a reasonable resolution, so they can steal our brilliant idea right from us, without spending their own brain power.

DrDln · 05-27-2011, 07:30 PM

I believe Amazon's strength is in marketing. They will do fine with kindle. The only thing missing is color and it's just a matter of time that they come up with colored kindle.

DiapDealer · 05-27-2011, 07:39 PM

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The only thing missing is color and it's just a matter of time that they come up with colored kindle.

I just can't wait to read my black & white novels on a color Kindle.

PharaohsVizier · 05-27-2011, 11:14 PM

Even if you don't read comics or look at color pictures for your books, it'd be nice to have color screen savers and it'll do wonders for the interface. Personally I want color because I do read PDFs with a lot of color charts, I've been getting pretty good at sorting shades of grey, but still...

bhartman36 · 05-27-2011, 11:37 PM

I don't think Amazon will "react", per se, to the latest releases. It's too soon after the $114 price announcement, and not enough time has elapsed since the Kindle 3.

I don't like touchscreen devices for reading, but if they release a touchscreen device, I hope there's a lock on it. One of the more annoying things about my Kindle 1, when I had it, was the inadvertent page turns if I was carrying it the wrong way or handed it to someone to look at.

I don't think we're close to a color e-ink device from Amazon. My understanding is the technology is still pretty expensive. How much incentive is there for Amazon to release a color e-ink device for a premium price when you've got the Nook Color and other tablets out there that would cost less? I don't think the color LCD screen on the Nook Color is bad enough in light to justify it, for most people.

What I'd like to see in the next Kindle is a return of the SD slot. But I have little hope for that.

chas0039 · 05-28-2011, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I just can't wait to read my black & white novels on a color Kindle.

I'm on your side, a book reader, but I think that the color Kindle will be a big plus for magazine readers, not to mention children's books.

DiapDealer · 05-28-2011, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chas0039

I'm on your side, a book reader, but I think that the color Kindle will be a big plus for magazine readers, not to mention children's books.

Granted.
I'm not opposed to color or touch technology. I'm just opposed to either of those "features" changing my existing reading experience in any way. Don't degrade the B&W screen clarity; let me keep my physical buttons and everything will be okey-dokey.

I personally think keeping a dirt-cheap, basic B&W, non-touch, no-frills model available makes a lot of business sense--especially if you're truly as concerned with customer satisfaction as you claim to be.

True folder (organization) support and an SD slot would be at the top of my wishlist. Everything else is bland gravy.

chas0039 · 05-28-2011, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

True folder (organization) support and an SD slot would be at the top of my wishlist. Everything else is bland gravy.

As my grandfather used to say, "You slobbered a bib full".

I agree 100%.

Asawi · 05-28-2011, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by booklover6

Why should Amazon be in a panic over any of this? I'm sure they are not. They already have a superior product.

I don't think Amazon has any reason at all to panic. So far we agree.
They will keep selling devices. BUT, not because the devices are superior, but because of their "surroundings", meaning Amazon book store. People want to buy their books from Amazon and they think the only way to read those books are on Kindles. Concept as a whole may be superior, the device isn't. I'm sure the Amazon people are totally aware of that and way more ready to admit that than the devoted current users.
I'd be extremely suprised if there isn't a Kindle Touch on it's way.

Noah98 · 05-28-2011, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I don't see the need for Amazon to react at all. There's absolutely nothing new or technically-innovative in the new B&N device - it's effectively a low-cost copy of the Sony PRS-650. I don't think Amazon are going to be the least bit worried about it.

I wouldn't say a copy considering the fact that the 650 doesn't have wifi, and the nook does. That's kind of a big deal...

DiapDealer · 05-28-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Asawi

I'd be extremely suprised if there isn't a Kindle Touch on it's way.

Let's face it... everyone will be surprised if the next Kindle doesn't have touch-technology. That's not really the issue. The issue is; are they going to "force" users into a Touch-Only scenario? Which physical buttons will remain if not? Trust me, getting rid of buttons is a decision that Amazon is NOT going to rush into... especially now that they have the opportunity to gauge customer response to the competition's devices which did get rid of a lot of buttons. (And I'm only discussing ereaders to ereaders here not ereaders to tablets)

So "If" isn't the question when it comes to a Kindle Touch... "how" is. And it's a biggie: it has to attract new customers while at the same time, not piss off old customers who were looking to upgrade.

Asawi · 05-28-2011, 10:26 AM

I think Amazon are smart enough to realize that people want choice. The keyboard will disappear, but ther will be othr buttons.
My guess: Page trurning buttons as is now.
A row of quick menu buttons below the screen. Maybe "Go to", "search", "font/size" and of course "home"...

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05-27-2011, 06:45 PM	#78
booklover6 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,545 Karma: 14008730 Join Date: May 2008 Location: PA (USA) Device: Kobo Clara, 2E, Libre 1, PW4, PW5, 2022 Kindle, Kobo Libre Colour	That is so not true! A common error that people make. I can and have bought many books from fictionwise for my kindle. I have also bought books from on line publishers for my Kindle. In fact, I have only bought 3 or 4 books from amazon for my Kindle. The rest have ALL come from other sources.

05-27-2011, 07:16 PM	#79
kranu I <3 my Kindle Posts: 528 Karma: 51332 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Device: Kindle 3G + WiFi	Oh come on guys! We all know that Amazon is just waiting for this thread to come to a reasonable resolution, so they can steal our brilliant idea right from us, without spending their own brain power.

05-27-2011, 07:30 PM	#80
DrDln Banned Posts: 1,527 Karma: 2349214 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Mountain House, CA Device: kindle	I believe Amazon's strength is in marketing. They will do fine with kindle. The only thing missing is color and it's just a matter of time that they come up with colored kindle.

05-27-2011, 11:14 PM	#82
PharaohsVizier Connoisseur Posts: 92 Karma: 510274 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: Kindle 3, Kindle DXG, Kindle Fire, Kindle Touch	Even if you don't read comics or look at color pictures for your books, it'd be nice to have color screen savers and it'll do wonders for the interface. Personally I want color because I do read PDFs with a lot of color charts, I've been getting pretty good at sorting shades of grey, but still...

05-27-2011, 11:37 PM	#83
bhartman36 Wizard Posts: 1,323 Karma: 1515835 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey, USA Device: Kobo Libra Colour, Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition (2021)	I don't think Amazon will "react", per se, to the latest releases. It's too soon after the $114 price announcement, and not enough time has elapsed since the Kindle 3. I don't like touchscreen devices for reading, but if they release a touchscreen device, I hope there's a lock on it. One of the more annoying things about my Kindle 1, when I had it, was the inadvertent page turns if I was carrying it the wrong way or handed it to someone to look at. I don't think we're close to a color e-ink device from Amazon. My understanding is the technology is still pretty expensive. How much incentive is there for Amazon to release a color e-ink device for a premium price when you've got the Nook Color and other tablets out there that would cost less? I don't think the color LCD screen on the Nook Color is bad enough in light to justify it, for most people. What I'd like to see in the next Kindle is a return of the SD slot. But I have little hope for that.

05-28-2011, 10:26 AM	#90
Asawi Gadgetoholic Posts: 1,467 Karma: 3865860 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sweden Device: Kobo Libra2, Tolino Vision 6	I think Amazon are smart enough to realize that people want choice. The keyboard will disappear, but ther will be othr buttons. My guess: Page trurning buttons as is now. A row of quick menu buttons below the screen. Maybe "Go to", "search", "font/size" and of course "home"...