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JSWolf · 05-24-2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryzir

Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/jytEn.jpg

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What a lousy set of fonts overall. Too bad the fonts could not be user installable.

SCION · 05-24-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

What a lousy set of fonts overall. Too bad the fonts could not be user installable.

I had to do a double take. Thought you were Jack (jswinden) for a moment!

OtterBooks · 05-24-2011, 06:02 PM

A lot of people will like the page numbers displayed right at the bottom. Oddly I've grown fond of the percentage (which may be an option).

anamardoll · 05-24-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by randyharris

I almost never use the buttons but prefer to swipe to turn the page, feels more natural to me like reading a paper book.

I've heard that - and that's definitely the Kobo marketing blurb - but I see the swipe motion as a flaw from the old format that doesn't need to follow into the new.

I definitely like having both options on a device. I suspect that the "no button" thing is a deal breaker for lots of readers, particularly special needs readers.

(I would think the swipe is more annoying for lefties, too. I love my PB360 because you can orient it such that you can hole it with either the left hand OR the right hand, with no loss of functionality.)

jedifarfy · 05-24-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by anamardoll

I wonder if you can turn off page swiping? So hard to highlight a word when the device is trying to swipe for you.

It's not a problem on the NC. You hold down over a word you want to highlight, then drag the ends of the highlight where you want. The device knows it's in that mode. I haven't had any pages flip on me while doing that.

SCION · 05-24-2011, 06:47 PM

Speaking of highlights, I wonder if this will have the same problem as the NOOKcolor. On the NOOKcolor you can't move the beginning of the highlighted position. In other words you can't drag the first end of the highlight to the left. Unless this has been corrected in the latest 1.2 update. Haven't read anything about it.

Harmon · 05-24-2011, 06:50 PM

Some thoughts on the last couple of days:

It looks to me like the market is converging on $100-150 price point, grayscale & wifi for low end EBRs. It does not seem to be converging on buttons or touch, though - that is, we now have Kobo with touch, Nook with touch & buttons, and Kindle with buttons.

What I can't figure out is the future of 3G. Only Kindle has it right now, until you get to the higher cost iPads. Personally, I think that 3G conveys a real advantage for the Kindle; on the other, I think that 3G is keeping the K3G at a price point which is increasingly unsustainable. And I can't see anyone putting 3G on an Android tablet without a user contract. My guess is that 3G is going, going...

I'm getting the feeling that Amazon's next move might be to drop the K3G (or the KWifi.) This would leave them with the lowest cost EBR - the KSO - with an ad-free alternative.

And then, I think they'll introduce a 6 or 7 inch color touch pad in direct competition with the color Nook, plus a 10 inch color model replacing the KDX and undercutting the iPad's price.

It does appear to me that Sony has lost the battle in the US. I don't see anything that the Sonys do that isn't done as well or better, at a lower cost, by the Big Three.

JSWolf · 05-24-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SCION

I had to do a double take. Thought you were Jack (jswinden) for a moment!

To be honest, 4 of the fonts are sans-serif which I dislike for the base font and the other two serif fonts are really nothing special. I don't see why they could not let us replace those 6 with 6 of our choice.

JSWolf · 05-24-2011, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by anamardoll

I've heard that - and that's definitely the Kobo marketing blurb - but I see the swipe motion as a flaw from the old format that doesn't need to follow into the new.

I definitely like having both options on a device. I suspect that the "no button" thing is a deal breaker for lots of readers, particularly special needs readers.

(I would think the swipe is more annoying for lefties, too. I love my PB360 because you can orient it such that you can hole it with either the left hand OR the right hand, with no loss of functionality.)

With my 650, there is an option to change the direction of the page swipe and I would expect one here as well.

anamardoll · 05-24-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jedifarfy

It's not a problem on the NC. You hold down over a word you want to highlight, then drag the ends of the highlight where you want. The device knows it's in that mode. I haven't had any pages flip on me while doing that.

I have the NC and I do not like the stock highlighting because I have had problems with it, but I won't derail to talk about that here. I'll simply say that I hope the swipe function is turn-offable in the new Nook.

SCION · 05-24-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

To be honest, 4 of the fonts are sans-serif which I dislike for the base font and the other two serif fonts are really nothing special. I don't see why they could not let us replace those 6 with 6 of our choice.

AHHH! Understood. Thanks for pointing this out. Not a fan of the sans-serif fonts. I assumed it was 3 of each type. Darn!

JSWolf · 05-24-2011, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

It does appear to me that Sony has lost the battle in the US. I don't see anything that the Sonys do that isn't done as well or better, at a lower cost, by the Big Three.

Sony Readers do have swiping as well as page turn buttons.

But what happens to Sony will remain to be seen when October comes and we see what the next generation brings. Maybe we'll get a 7" reader at a 6" price. And the 6" reader at the 5" price. That would really sake thing up. But that's just a guess.

anamardoll · 05-24-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SCION

AHHH! Understood. Thanks for pointing this out. Not a fan of the sans-serif fonts. I assumed it was 3 of each type. Darn!

I don't like sans-serif fonts either. I thought it was just me.

Why four of those?? Are they really popular with everyone except us three??

JSWolf · 05-24-2011, 07:03 PM

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JSWolf · 05-24-2011, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SCION

AHHH! Understood. Thanks for pointing this out. Not a fan of the sans-serif fonts. I assumed it was 3 of each type. Darn!

My mistake. It is 3 & 3. But Cecillia is a lousy font. It's almost like reading Courier. The other two serif-fonts are nothing specials and the sans-serf fonts are just that, sans-serif. So they are no good by default no matter which fonts they are.

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SCION Séduisant Posts: 4,706 Karma: 2107018 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Texas, USA Device: Boox Note Air2+; Kobo Libra2; Kindle Scribe, Oasis3; iPad Mini6	Speaking of highlights, I wonder if this will have the same problem as the NOOKcolor. On the NOOKcolor you can't move the beginning of the highlighted position. In other words you can't drag the first end of the highlight to the left. Unless this has been corrected in the latest 1.2 update. Haven't read anything about it.

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Harmon King of the Bongo Drums Posts: 1,630 Karma: 5927225 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Excelsior! (Strange...)	Some thoughts on the last couple of days: It looks to me like the market is converging on $100-150 price point, grayscale & wifi for low end EBRs. It does not seem to be converging on buttons or touch, though - that is, we now have Kobo with touch, Nook with touch & buttons, and Kindle with buttons. What I can't figure out is the future of 3G. Only Kindle has it right now, until you get to the higher cost iPads. Personally, I think that 3G conveys a real advantage for the Kindle; on the other, I think that 3G is keeping the K3G at a price point which is increasingly unsustainable. And I can't see anyone putting 3G on an Android tablet without a user contract. My guess is that 3G is going, going... I'm getting the feeling that Amazon's next move might be to drop the K3G (or the KWifi.) This would leave them with the lowest cost EBR - the KSO - with an ad-free alternative. And then, I think they'll introduce a 6 or 7 inch color touch pad in direct competition with the color Nook, plus a 10 inch color model replacing the KDX and undercutting the iPad's price. It does appear to me that Sony has lost the battle in the US. I don't see anything that the Sonys do that isn't done as well or better, at a lower cost, by the Big Three.