AMAZON KINDLE BOOKS ON NOOK?

[jocampo]

Originally Posted by anamardoll

This is ridiculous. Rooting the NC does not "affect" B&N;

Do you think that B&N makes more money if you buy from Google or if you buy from B&N Android Market directly? Think about it.

They locked the device to force people and buy from B&N market and use the device on their own world and rules. Of course, there is nothing wrong on that but for sure, B&N should not be happy with rooted device; they don't even honor the warranty if you brick it (yeah, yeah, most folks on B&N will never check or test, but still the warranty won't be cover if they can really prove it). They make money from their books, not only with the NC sales.

[anamardoll]

jocampo,

The statement "the stock Nook Color device is an awful ereader" is a subjective statement. Not an objective one.

It is subjective because what makes the NC stock reader good or bad depends on the needs of the reader. For me, the Moon+ reader is the BEST READER EVER, but for jhempel24, the Moon+ reader sucks because one of the things I love about it (the between-paragraph line breaks), he hates.

Please stop arguing a subjective statement with "evidence" that lots of people root the NC. Yes, for lots of people, the NC stock reader is insufficient. For lots of OTHER people, it's just fine.

The flame wars on this forum are seriously getting out of hand.

[anamardoll]

Originally Posted by jocampo

Do you think that B&N makes more money if you buy from Google or if you buy from B&N Android Market directly? Think about it.

They locked the device to force people and buy from B&N market and use the device on their own world and rules. Of course, there is nothing wrong on that but for sure, B&N should not be happy with rooted device; they don't even honor the warranty if you brick it (yeah, yeah, most folks on B&N will never check or test, but still the warranty won't be cover if they can really prove it). They make money from their books, not only with the NC sales.

Of course B&N wants people to buy from their store. That is NOT the same thing as them being "affected" by people rooting their NCs.

The two issues have nothing to do with one another - a NON-rooted NC can read non-B&N books just as easily as a rooted one can. The device is not "locked" as you say - what on earth makes you say that??? - you can load non-B&N books onto a non-rooted NC easily. Their website tells you how to do it, even!

There is also not a single documented case that I know of (a) a rooter bricking their device and (b) B&N refusing to replace the device. Heck, they've encouraged DEVELOPERS to root the device on the B&N developer forums.

B&N does not care if you root your NC. They have not attempted to lock buyers into their store. Any claim otherwise is ridiculous.

[jocampo]

Originally Posted by anamardoll

jocampo,

The statement "the stock Nook Color device is an awful ereader" is a subjective statement. Not an objective one.

It is subjective because what makes the NC stock reader good or bad depends on the needs of the reader. For me, the Moon+ reader is the BEST READER EVER, but for jhempel24, the Moon+ reader sucks because one of the things I love about it (the between-paragraph line breaks), he hates.

Please stop arguing a subjective statement with "evidence" that lots of people root the NC. Yes, for lots of people, the NC stock reader is insufficient. For lots of OTHER people, it's just fine.

The flame wars on this forum are seriously getting out of hand.

I keep my word.

The default stock NC is awful sir. There is not subjective matter on the functionality of an ereader. Ergonomics, screen's appeareance, eye strain, even price , maybe... but missing features are not.

Good if you like it or use the stock NC. Wish you a happy day and enjoy your device.

[anamardoll]

Originally Posted by jocampo

I keep my word.

The default stock NC is awful sir. There is not subjective matter on the functionality of an ereader. Ergonomics, screen's appeareance, eye strain, even price , maybe... but missing features are not.

Good if you like it or use the stock NC. Wish you a happy day and enjoy your device.

I've already SAID I personally don't like the stock NC reader - I practically mention CM7 in every post I make on MR and I've said I use Moon+ as my reader on my NC. You're not even reading the posts you're responding to - you're just flame baiting incessantly.

In my subjective opinion, people who insist on making flamey statements on subjective matters, are trolls and should be treated as such.

*ignore*

[MsCG1]

Originally Posted by jocampo

Disagree.

And the proof of that are the tons of post and people rooting the NC. The stock device does not really translate to a good stock eareader. Just to give you a few examples reading PDFs with stock app. is horrible, there is no way to remember the last page you read. The most recent firmware upgrade (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) did not fix or allow you to read landscape, that's so basic.

And those are just a few. For a device which is being locked (no Android acces by default) and marketed as an ereader, that's unacceptable, at least for me. Most eink readers do landscape and they are cheaper.

By the way, I do not really want to start another useless debate about NC vs Galaxy Tab or iPad or whatever. I've noticed that people on this particular forum is not tolerant to critics or comments and take things personal, so I won't make additional comment or talk about something that is really obvious, like the stock NC.

I don't even know why you enter these threads, to be frank. Because yes, it is useless, pointless, and you come to a BN forum to trash the product and offend users of said product.

I rooted the Nookcolor that I share with my husband, but he asked me specifically NOT to use CM7 because he really likes the BN skin/reader. I don't, and I use Aldiko exclusively. But the beauty of using autonooter is that we can use the same device with two separate reader apps. See there? I don't have to trash the BN reader as being "garbage" and he doesn't scream at me to go and get a Galaxy Tab.

You're a really rude and disruptive presence in this particular forum.

[anamardoll]

Originally Posted by MsCG1

I rooted the Nookcolor that I share with my husband, but he asked me specifically NOT to use CM7 because he really likes the BN skin/reader. I don't, and I use Aldiko exclusively. But the beauty of using autonooter is that we can use the same device with two separate reader apps.

Completely off-topic in a new direction:

Have you considered running CM7 off an SD card? My own husband prefers the B&N stock OS, too, when he's reading, but he likes CM7 for tablety things. With CM7 on an SD card, he just pops the SD card out, turns on the device, and it's 100% B&N stock stuff.

We did the autonooter dual thing for awhile, but I didn't like it nearly so much as I now do CM7 via SD card.

http://www.anamardoll.com/2011/04/er...e-on-nook.html

[jocampo]

@MsCG1,

I do not think I need to answer your question, but let me do it.

-I owned, used and had a Nook Color
-The thread was Kindle's related.
-This is a free forum/website so I think that anyone is free to post as long as we do that with respect and without engaging on personal attacks.

Unless you or other users, I own a Kindle. So I can give both perspective that probably non Kindle users cannot.

I do not hate B&N, I do not work for Amazon and at the end, I buy or use, a device which provides a good experience, regardless of the brand.

[jocampo]

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[MsCG1]

Originally Posted by jocampo

@MsCG1,

I do not think I need to answer your question, but let me do it.

-I owned, used and had a Nook Color
-The thread was Kindle's related.
-This is a free forum/website so I think that anyone is free to post as long as we do that with respect and without engaging on personal attacks.

Unless you or other users, I own a Kindle. So I can give both perspective that probably non Kindle users cannot.

I do not hate B&N, I do not work for Amazon and at the end, I buy or use, a device which provides a good experience, regardless of the brand.

1. So what?

2. Not exactly. The OP did not ask for your opinion on the BN skin, interface, or the device. The OP simply wanted to know if Kindle books could be read on the Nook, you took an opportunity--not that you ever really need one--to trash the Nook and inflame the community over here. Do you really not see a difference?

3. Yes this is a free forum and you're within your rights to stir the pot and alienate other users, but unless you enjoy living under a bridge, I have no reason why you continue to do so. Do Nook users parlay over to the Kindle forum to heckle and trash the device on a DAILY BASIS? Just because you can do something doesn't mean that you SHOULD.
And with that said, yes, you can post about how much the Nook sucks until the cows come home, but we are also free to call you out on your crap.

4. I don't own a Kindle, but I have used one. I do own several eink devices, and they are all pretty much basic and the same thing--they are all sturdy, they have eink screens, and you can read books off of them. Other features such as battery life, batteries, sd cards, etc., are all personal preferences, and no, you really don't have the "jump" on any of us when it comes to comparing an eink device to a Nookcolor or a tablet or whatever.

You used a NC and didn't work out for you. No one cares. I am a daily user of a gently rooted Nookcolor, and I'm an active member of several Nookcolor rooting communities. Yes we root, but we all still support BN and many of us still exclusively buy our books from BN because we APPRECIATE the awesome device they've given us at a very affordable price. So no, you are WRONG in your assumptions that people are rooting because they're simply dying to get away from BN and give money to Amazon. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

[MsCG1]

Originally Posted by anamardoll

Completely off-topic in a new direction:

Have you considered running CM7 off an SD card? My own husband prefers the B&N stock OS, too, when he's reading, but he likes CM7 for tablety things. With CM7 on an SD card, he just pops the SD card out, turns on the device, and it's 100% B&N stock stuff.

We did the autonooter dual thing for awhile, but I didn't like it nearly so much as I now do CM7 via SD card.

http://www.anamardoll.com/2011/04/er...e-on-nook.html

I did consider it, but I'm just too lazy to do it.

I can barely get my hands on the Nookcolor these days, my husband has pretty much taken it over. He likes it better than his Sony, but refuses to admit it.

[jocampo]

Originally Posted by MsCG1

So no, you are WRONG in your assumptions that people are rooting because they're simply dying to get away from BN and give money to Amazon. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

You keep putting words on my mouth, things that I did not write or say.

I did not say people are rooting the device to give money to Amazon, on the contrary, I said it can affect B&N because what the company wants is the user to buy and use their own "Android Environment", not buying from other online libraries. That's what B&N does, selling books. They don't want people to buy from Amazon, and once you get access to Android Market, you will be able to install the Kindle app and read books from Amazon directly.

The new B&N Android app and store, is to make more money and revenue via apps. Rooting defeats that purpose. If you root it, you will not be helping the company that you are saying you love and like, instead, you are helping Google.

People opted for rooting the NC because they don't like the stock device, is awful! They want to be able to install Kindle app, among other nice readers which are way better than the default one; that was the initial post on this thread.

Yes, users are free to do whatever they want with their device, including Kindle, but regarding the NC, it won't change the fact that the stock device is far from good.

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Originally Posted by boswd

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You buy anthing non amazon, there is a hoop to jump through each time on the kindle. ...

c'mon boswd you know this isn't true quit posting miss information, if you are referring to Adobe/Apple/B&N DRM please state so.

Also many of us are tired of this of this topic that seems to be reiterated for two years know can we please not turn this thread into that argument all over.

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[jocampo]

Originally Posted by MSMYTH

Can you buy a Kindle book from Amazon and have it work on the nook?

To the OP

On the stock Nook Color, you cannot read Amazon's books. The stock NC is "locked" into B&N Android environment and you need full access to Android Market in order to do that. Rooting the device can give you such access, but rooting it is not officially supported by B&N.

The other alternative that you have is breaking the DRM protection and convert to ePUb via Calibre (also briefly explained here before) In some countries, including USA, this is illegal and maybe not moral? But that is up to you. Mobileread rules do not allow to explicitly explain the process but there are several references if you check on Google.

My personal opinion and advice to you is using a Kindle's device instead. You will be indirectly supporting Amazon if you root the device; if you're a B&N supporter you should keep your device stock or stick to B&N online bookstore.