Need ebook for Israeli–Palestinian conflict

jocampo · 05-20-2011, 01:20 PM

Hi,

Looking for a "readable" and non biased ebook about Israeli–Palestinian conflict, I prefer on Kindle version.

Found this one at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Palestine-Isra...5911776&sr=1-1 but is on pbook only.

Any suggestions?

OtterBooks · 05-21-2011, 12:03 AM

I read that in a mid-eastern studies course. Pretty good. Honestly the nature of the issue (and the nature of history writing in general) makes truly unbiased writing on it near-impossible. There are some good works that make solid attempts at level-headedness, like David K. Shipler's well written Arab and Jew. Shipler was a NYTimes Israel correspondent for a while and it's a good read. (edit: apparently no ebook version, which shouldn't stop you if the subject matter is more important than the format)

Some of the biased works are actually very good, and important. The key is exposing yourself to works on both sides if you want a deep understanding of the subject. imo.

jocampo · 05-21-2011, 01:46 PM

Thank you so much for the advice.

Yeah, I visited B&N yesterday and saw couple of books that I like. I will probably buy one of those.

Thanks again.

stonetools · 05-22-2011, 01:02 PM

Maybe body armor and an RPG would be more useful...

OK, books... Try " Accidental Empire"

AMAZON

It's not available as an ebook, and I haven't read it, but it's well regarded. I've read "Six Days of War" -the event which supercharged the conflict. Its excellent and is available as an ebook. There is also a Kindle edition for Thomas Friedman's "From Beirut to Jerusalem" , which is a decent primer on the conflict up to the First Intifada.

This is the most written about ethnic conflict in history, so there is no shortage of material out there. If you were interested in the Congo or the Kashmir, you would be really stuck.

jocampo · 05-22-2011, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonetools

Maybe body armor and an RPG would be more useful...

OK, books... Try " Accidental Empire"

AMAZON

It's not available as an ebook, and I haven't read it, but it's well regarded. I've read "Six Days of War" -the event which supercharged the conflict. Its excellent and is available as an ebook. There is also a Kindle edition for Thomas Friedman's "From Beirut to Jerusalem" , which is a decent primer on the conflict up to the First Intifada.

This is the most written about ethnic conflict in history, so there is no shortage of material out there. If you were interested in the Congo or the Kashmir, you would be really stuck.

Wow! Looks interesting, let me take a look ...

AlexBell · 05-23-2011, 03:56 AM

My recommendations - all available in ebooks

-This time we went too far by Norman Finkelstein from OR books - it can be bought as a package - pbook+ebook in ePub and mobi versions
-A Divided Paradise - An Irishman in the Holy Land by David Lynch
-The Hour of Sunlight by Sami al Jundi and Jen Marlow
-Palestine Peace not Apartheid by Jimmy Carter
-We Can Have Peace in the Holy Land by Jimmy Carter
-Blood Brothers by Elias Chacour - if you can only read one this is probably the best introduction.

All have their strengths and points of view. If you care to PM me I'll go over them in more detail.

Regards, Alex

AlexBell · 05-23-2011, 03:59 AM

PS Don't, whatever you do, buy Zionism: The enemy of the Jews by Alan Hart unless Amazon has cleaned up its formatting. This is absolutely the worst formatted book I have ever tried to read.

Regards, Alex

jocampo · 05-23-2011, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexBell

PS Don't, whatever you do, buy Zionism: The enemy of the Jews by Alan Hart unless Amazon has cleaned up its formatting. This is absolutely the worst formatted book I have ever tried to read.

Regards, Alex

Thanks for the advice.

pokerface · 05-24-2011, 11:39 PM

Talk about a can of worms.

AlexBell · 06-20-2011, 01:47 AM

Another very strong recommendation: Fast times in Palestine by Pamela Olson. It is available from Amazon and from Smashwords where I gave it a five star review. It is an autobiographical account by a young American woman who lived in Palestine for many years and recorded what she saw and experienced. Very well written, with lots of references.

Regards, Alex

Namekuseijin · 06-20-2011, 04:42 PM

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...cevolution.jpg

Wiley's Non Sequitur comic strip has lots of past insightful words on the nature of the conflict...

oh well, not directly related, but here goes for some nice laughs:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/118/3...44d050ac_o.gif
http://paxsims.files.wordpress.com/2...ur_pan-698.jpg

alehel · 06-20-2011, 05:19 PM

At the moment I'm reading "The Arabs a History" by Eugene Rogan. It is an outline of the history of the middle east. It starts as far back as the beginning of the Ottoman empire and works its way chronologically to today. While it doesn't specialize on the Israel/Palestine conflict, it does discuss it to some extend.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Arabs-A-Hi...8604502&sr=8-1

05-20-2011, 01:20 PM	#1
jocampo Layback feline Posts: 3,034 Karma: 6980745 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Device: Oasis 2nd gen, Sony DPTS1, iPad Pro 10.5"	Need ebook for Israeli–Palestinian conflict Hi, Looking for a "readable" and non biased ebook about Israeli–Palestinian conflict, I prefer on Kindle version. Found this one at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Palestine-Isra...5911776&sr=1-1 but is on pbook only. Any suggestions?

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OtterBooks Wizard Posts: 1,262 Karma: 2979086 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kindle 4, iPad Mini/Retina	I read that in a mid-eastern studies course. Pretty good. Honestly the nature of the issue (and the nature of history writing in general) makes truly unbiased writing on it near-impossible. There are some good works that make solid attempts at level-headedness, like David K. Shipler's well written Arab and Jew. Shipler was a NYTimes Israel correspondent for a while and it's a good read. (edit: apparently no ebook version, which shouldn't stop you if the subject matter is more important than the format) Some of the biased works are actually very good, and important. The key is exposing yourself to works on both sides if you want a deep understanding of the subject. imo.

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jocampo Layback feline Posts: 3,034 Karma: 6980745 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Device: Oasis 2nd gen, Sony DPTS1, iPad Pro 10.5"	Thank you so much for the advice. Yeah, I visited B&N yesterday and saw couple of books that I like. I will probably buy one of those. Thanks again.

05-22-2011, 01:02 PM	#4
stonetools Wizard Posts: 2,016 Karma: 2838487 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Washington, DC Device: Ipad, IPhone	Maybe body armor and an RPG would be more useful... OK, books... Try " Accidental Empire" AMAZON It's not available as an ebook, and I haven't read it, but it's well regarded. I've read "Six Days of War" -the event which supercharged the conflict. Its excellent and is available as an ebook. There is also a Kindle edition for Thomas Friedman's "From Beirut to Jerusalem" , which is a decent primer on the conflict up to the First Intifada. This is the most written about ethnic conflict in history, so there is no shortage of material out there. If you were interested in the Congo or the Kashmir, you would be really stuck.

05-23-2011, 03:56 AM	#6
AlexBell Wizard Posts: 3,413 Karma: 13369310 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Launceston, Tasmania Device: Sony PRS T3, Kobo Glo, Kindle Touch, iPad, Samsung SB 2 tablet	My recommendations - all available in ebooks -This time we went too far by Norman Finkelstein from OR books - it can be bought as a package - pbook+ebook in ePub and mobi versions -A Divided Paradise - An Irishman in the Holy Land by David Lynch -The Hour of Sunlight by Sami al Jundi and Jen Marlow -Palestine Peace not Apartheid by Jimmy Carter -We Can Have Peace in the Holy Land by Jimmy Carter -Blood Brothers by Elias Chacour - if you can only read one this is probably the best introduction. All have their strengths and points of view. If you care to PM me I'll go over them in more detail. Regards, Alex

05-23-2011, 03:59 AM	#7
AlexBell Wizard Posts: 3,413 Karma: 13369310 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Launceston, Tasmania Device: Sony PRS T3, Kobo Glo, Kindle Touch, iPad, Samsung SB 2 tablet	PS Don't, whatever you do, buy Zionism: The enemy of the Jews by Alan Hart unless Amazon has cleaned up its formatting. This is absolutely the worst formatted book I have ever tried to read. Regards, Alex

05-24-2011, 11:39 PM	#9
pokerface Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2011 Device: Too many to list!	Talk about a can of worms.

06-20-2011, 01:47 AM	#10
AlexBell Wizard Posts: 3,413 Karma: 13369310 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Launceston, Tasmania Device: Sony PRS T3, Kobo Glo, Kindle Touch, iPad, Samsung SB 2 tablet	Another very strong recommendation: Fast times in Palestine by Pamela Olson. It is available from Amazon and from Smashwords where I gave it a five star review. It is an autobiographical account by a young American woman who lived in Palestine for many years and recorded what she saw and experienced. Very well written, with lots of references. Regards, Alex

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Namekuseijin affordable chipmunk Posts: 1,290 Karma: 9863855 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Brazil Device: Sony XPeria ZL, Kindle Paperwhite	http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...cevolution.jpg Wiley's Non Sequitur comic strip has lots of past insightful words on the nature of the conflict... oh well, not directly related, but here goes for some nice laughs: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/118/3...44d050ac_o.gif http://paxsims.files.wordpress.com/2...ur_pan-698.jpg

06-20-2011, 05:19 PM	#12
alehel Zealot Posts: 112 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Norway Device: Kobo Clara HD	At the moment I'm reading "The Arabs a History" by Eugene Rogan. It is an outline of the history of the middle east. It starts as far back as the beginning of the Ottoman empire and works its way chronologically to today. While it doesn't specialize on the Israel/Palestine conflict, it does discuss it to some extend. http://www.amazon.com/The-Arabs-A-Hi...8604502&sr=8-1