MobileRead May 2011 Mobile Read Book Club Vote - Page 21

John F · 04-29-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

This just proves that we need blind voting. The results would be different and more honest.

Where I live, no one is allowed to "demonstrate" within a 100 yards of a voting area. I would suggest that once the final voting starts, no campaigning is allowed, and anyone found "demonstrating" will be forcibly removed; This means you Jon!

sun surfer · 04-29-2011, 03:55 PM

Yes, but people are allowed to demonstrate otherwise. If the thread didn't allow that, there would be no demonstrating at all. I just think blind voting would be funner and a more honest vote, and people could still discuss. We wouldn't see this massive campaigning though, because no one would have any idea who was in the lead. I think at the least it'd be a great one month experiment.

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Originally Posted by VioletVal

From my research there seems to be a consensus that the Maude translation is the best, and this edition has really good reviews: http://www.amazon.com/Karenina-Trans...4103276&sr=1-4.

Thanks, VioletVal!

Nyssa · 04-29-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by VioletVal

From my research there seems to be a consensus that the Maude translation is the best, and this edition has really good reviews: http://www.amazon.com/Karenina-Trans...4103276&sr=1-4.

Thank you Violet. I am downloading this as I type.

The free Amazon edition is formatted horribly, and the free Manybooks edition had a small but obvious typo on the very first page. I already look forward to the added extra's (namely the Russian words) and the promise of a working ToC.

GA Russell · 04-29-2011, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sun surfer

We wouldn't see this massive campaigning though, because no one would have any idea who was in the lead.

Oh, you think so, huh?

kennyc · 04-29-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GA Russell

Oh, you think so, huh?

Maybe even more if not known.

sun surfer · 04-29-2011, 05:16 PM

Well, personally I don't mind the campaigning, I think it's fun too. But yeah I do think it wouldn't be like this if the votes were unknown. However, if it were like this, or worse, that'd be fine, as it'd make the reveal at the end that much funner to see what happened. Just because people campaign doesn't mean it will work. If it had been a blind vote this month, we may have thought Purple Sage or WOTW was going to win before the reveal judging from campaigning. One that no one even campaigns for may win in a blind vote, and I like that feeling.

zespectre · 04-29-2011, 07:02 PM

Maybe animal farm should have been on the list

kennyc · 04-29-2011, 08:01 PM

Maybe. We could read and discuss.

kennyc · 04-29-2011, 08:36 PM

Just to get everyone primed....(I've just read the first chapter):

From Wikipedia:
Anna Karenina (Russian: Анна Каренина; Russian pronunciation: [ˈanə kɐˈrʲenʲɪnə]) (sometimes Anglicised as Anna Karenin)[1] is a novel by the Russian writer Leo Tolstoy, published in serial installments from 1873 to 1877 in the periodical The Russian Messenger. Tolstoy clashed with its editor Mikhail Katkov over issues that arose in the final installment; therefore, the novel's first complete appearance was in book form.

Widely regarded as a pinnacle in realist fiction, Tolstoy considered Anna Karenina his first true novel, when he came to consider War and Peace to be more than a novel. The character of Anna was likely inspired, in part, by Maria Hartung (Russian spelling Maria Gartung, 1832–1919), the elder daughter of the Russian poet Alexander Pushkin.[citation needed] Soon after meeting her at dinner, Tolstoy began reading Pushkin's prose and once had a fleeting daydream of "a bare exquisite aristocratic elbow", which proved to be the first intimation of Anna's character.[2]

Although Russian critics dismissed the novel on its publication as a "trifling romance of high life",[3] Fyodor Dostoevsky declared it to be "flawless as a work of art". His opinion was shared by Vladimir Nabokov, who especially admired "the flawless magic of Tolstoy's style", and by William Faulkner, who described the novel as "the best ever written".[4] The novel is currently enjoying popularity as demonstrated by a recent poll of 125 contemporary authors by J. Peder Zane, published in 2007 in The Top Ten, which declared that Anna Karenina is the "greatest novel ever written".[5]

JSWolf · 04-29-2011, 08:52 PM

I would not stop the campaigning. But, with nobody being allowed to say what was voted on until after the results are in, then I don't think we'll get things going like we did in this thread. I think overall that a blind vote would be interesting.

GA Russell · 04-29-2011, 09:21 PM

I would be in favor of trying a blind vote, or perhaps doing it every other month. I don't think that it would be a good idea to make it a new permanent policy without trying it a few times first.

There are two issues I have in mind:

1) Would a blind vote decrease the number of ballots cast?

2) Would the typical blind vote have tallies so close across the board that often the winner has little support?

zespectre · 04-29-2011, 10:15 PM

Okay, just finished the book....The butler did it.

WT Sharpe · 04-29-2011, 10:25 PM

I think people would grow suspicious of a blind ballot. How would folks know for sure the voting was fair? But it would be neat if we tried a poll where the results weren't visible until the vote was final. Of course, Alex would have to work some magic to make that an option.

That being said, is there a Reader's Digest version of Anna Karenina? There's no way in hell I'm going to read Annie K in three weeks with all I have on my plate.

siraks · 04-29-2011, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

I think people would grow suspicious of a blind ballot. How would folks know for sure the voting was fair? But it would be neat if we tried a poll where the results weren't visible until the vote was final. Of course, Alex would have to work some magic to make that an option.

That being said, is there a Reader's Digest version of Anna Karenina? There's no way in hell I'm going to read Annie K in three weeks with all I have on my plate.

http://www.cliffsnotes.com/WileyCDA/...ina.id-15.html

stickybuns · 04-29-2011, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

I think people would grow suspicious of a blind ballot. How would folks know for sure the voting was fair? But it would be neat if we tried a poll where the results weren't visible until the vote was final. Of course, Alex would have to work some magic to make that an option.

That being said, is there a Reader's Digest version of Anna Karenina? There's no way in hell I'm going to read Annie K in three weeks with all I have on my plate.

There's several abridged audio book versions available through Audible.com

View Poll Results: May 2011 Mobile Read Book Club Vote
1984 by George Orwell	22	24.72%
The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde	4	4.49%
Call of the Wild by Jack London	6	6.74%
Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy	23	25.84%
Personal Recollections of Joan of Arc by Mark Twain	4	4.49%
War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells	7	7.87%
Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra	4	4.49%
Riders of the Purple Sage by Zane Grey	8	8.99%
The Age of Innocence by Edith Wharton	7	7.87%
The Diary of a Nobody by George Grossmith and Weedon Grossmith	4	4.49%
Voters: 89. You may not vote on this poll

04-29-2011, 10:15 PM	#312
zespectre BookMonkey Posts: 90 Karma: 18008 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Shenandoah Valley Device: NOOK, iPod Touch, Asus Netbook	Okay, just finished the book....The butler did it. Last edited by zespectre; 04-29-2011 at 10:18 PM.

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04-29-2011, 05:16 PM	#306
sun surfer languorous autodidact ✦ Posts: 4,235 Karma: 44667380 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: smiling with the rising sun Device: onyx boox poke 2 colour, kindle voyage	Well, personally I don't mind the campaigning, I think it's fun too. But yeah I do think it wouldn't be like this if the votes were unknown. However, if it were like this, or worse, that'd be fine, as it'd make the reveal at the end that much funner to see what happened. Just because people campaign doesn't mean it will work. If it had been a blind vote this month, we may have thought Purple Sage or WOTW was going to win before the reveal judging from campaigning. One that no one even campaigns for may win in a blind vote, and I like that feeling.

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zespectre BookMonkey Posts: 90 Karma: 18008 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Shenandoah Valley Device: NOOK, iPod Touch, Asus Netbook	Maybe animal farm should have been on the list

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kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,907 Karma: 119230421 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	Maybe. We could read and discuss.

04-29-2011, 08:36 PM	#309
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,907 Karma: 119230421 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	Just to get everyone primed....(I've just read the first chapter): From Wikipedia: Anna Karenina (Russian: Анна Каренина; Russian pronunciation: [ˈanə kɐˈrʲenʲɪnə]) (sometimes Anglicised as Anna Karenin)[1] is a novel by the Russian writer Leo Tolstoy, published in serial installments from 1873 to 1877 in the periodical The Russian Messenger. Tolstoy clashed with its editor Mikhail Katkov over issues that arose in the final installment; therefore, the novel's first complete appearance was in book form. Widely regarded as a pinnacle in realist fiction, Tolstoy considered Anna Karenina his first true novel, when he came to consider War and Peace to be more than a novel. The character of Anna was likely inspired, in part, by Maria Hartung (Russian spelling Maria Gartung, 1832–1919), the elder daughter of the Russian poet Alexander Pushkin.[citation needed] Soon after meeting her at dinner, Tolstoy began reading Pushkin's prose and once had a fleeting daydream of "a bare exquisite aristocratic elbow", which proved to be the first intimation of Anna's character.[2] Although Russian critics dismissed the novel on its publication as a "trifling romance of high life",[3] Fyodor Dostoevsky declared it to be "flawless as a work of art". His opinion was shared by Vladimir Nabokov, who especially admired "the flawless magic of Tolstoy's style", and by William Faulkner, who described the novel as "the best ever written".[4] The novel is currently enjoying popularity as demonstrated by a recent poll of 125 contemporary authors by J. Peder Zane, published in 2007 in The Top Ten, which declared that Anna Karenina is the "greatest novel ever written".[5]

04-29-2011, 08:52 PM	#310
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,796 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I would not stop the campaigning. But, with nobody being allowed to say what was voted on until after the results are in, then I don't think we'll get things going like we did in this thread. I think overall that a blind vote would be interesting.

04-29-2011, 09:21 PM	#311
GA Russell Ticats win 6th straight. Posts: 7,695 Karma: 31487351 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC Device: Paperwhite, Kindles 10 & 4 and jetBook Lite	I would be in favor of trying a blind vote, or perhaps doing it every other month. I don't think that it would be a good idea to make it a new permanent policy without trying it a few times first. There are two issues I have in mind: 1) Would a blind vote decrease the number of ballots cast? 2) Would the typical blind vote have tallies so close across the board that often the winner has little support?

04-29-2011, 10:25 PM	#313
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,072 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	I think people would grow suspicious of a blind ballot. How would folks know for sure the voting was fair? But it would be neat if we tried a poll where the results weren't visible until the vote was final. Of course, Alex would have to work some magic to make that an option. That being said, is there a Reader's Digest version of Anna Karenina? There's no way in hell I'm going to read Annie K in three weeks with all I have on my plate.