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AnemicOak · 02-18-2008, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carandol

I don't know if anyone's stopped fiddling with the format for long enough to actually read "Mistborn", but if you enjoyed it, you might like to know that Brandon Sanderson has another novel for free, a new one, as yet unpublished in dead tree format (DTF?), available in lots of formats at http://manybooks.net/titles/sanderso...arbreaker.html

Thanks for the heads up. Question. Are most books from Manybooks as poorly formatted as this one? I downloaded the Sony lrf and it's formatting is terrible.

Nate the great · 02-18-2008, 08:51 PM

Yes. Manybooks is usually horrid.

igorsk · 02-19-2008, 04:26 AM

Manybooks uses makelrf which was made in the old times of Librie and doesn't do much more than plain text.

Cthulhu · 02-19-2008, 10:35 AM

Is it wrong for me to wait for illustrious JSWOLF to format this text for me?

;-

Feel a little bad about not relying on self-reliance, but I can't even embed links in a posting

JSWolf · 02-19-2008, 10:57 AM

I'm still reading and fixing errors due to fi and fl. But it's overall in a pretty good format.

tobiasj · 02-19-2008, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I'm still reading and fixing errors due to fi and fl. But it's overall in a pretty good format.

I still don't understand how this is happening. The HTML doesn't have this problem, the RTF I exported doesn't have this problem, only in BD does it crop up.

BD just doesn't like the letters fi and fl?

I have the RTF open in wordpad right now and its perfect, if I look at the source of the HTML the words Fiction and Find are both just text. What exactly is causing it?

Thanks,

-John

JSWolf · 02-19-2008, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobiasj

I still don't understand how this is happening. The HTML doesn't have this problem, the RTF I exported doesn't have this problem, only in BD does it crop up.

BD just doesn't like the letters fi and fl?

I have the RTF open in wordpad right now and its perfect, if I look at the source of the HTML the words Fiction and Find are both just text. What exactly is causing it?

Thanks,

-John

Look at the HTML source. I didn't notice until it was too far into the conversion. You'll see that fi and fl (both in lowercase) are not real ascii letters. Do a search and replace and fix it and you'll be able to loa dit in fine with BD.

nekokami · 02-19-2008, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaleDe

Actually that is not the meaning of Kern. It is the meaning of Ligatures. Kern is a term that means the removal of some of the space between letters to make them fit together and look nice on a page but it is not the combining of two letters into one. Kerning can also be applied (I believe) to a technique of adjusting the letter spacing to as a way to achieve full justification, or at least it has a roll in that effort.

Ligatures are, of course related to kerning in the sense of providing a certain 'look' to a page.

Dale

Yeah, I remembered that when someone posted about ligatures later. Had my terms mixed up. Sorry about that!

tobiasj · 02-19-2008, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Look at the HTML source. I didn't notice until it was too far into the conversion. You'll see that fi and fl (both in lowercase) are not real ascii letters. Do a search and replace and fix it and you'll be able to loa dit in fine with BD.

Well butter my backside and call me a biscuit, you are right. until I actually went INTO the source not just looked at it and tried to place the cursor between the f and the i did I notice I couldn't do it. I am replacing the fi and fl now, the rest of the formatting (italics and such are fine...) Though I have yet to have BD pick up on those properly.

Thanks!
-John

JSWolf · 02-19-2008, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobiasj

Well butter my backside and call me a biscuit, you are right. until I actually went INTO the source not just looked at it and tried to place the cursor between the f and the i did I notice I couldn't do it. I am replacing the fi and fl now, the rest of the formatting (italics and such are fine...) Though I have yet to have BD pick up on those properly.

Thanks!
-John

I tried to fix the problem via Book Cleaner and it didn't work. Don't know why.

gwynevans · 02-20-2008, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobiasj

Well butter my backside and call me a biscuit, you are right. until I actually went INTO the source not just looked at it and tried to place the cursor between the f and the i did I notice I couldn't do it. I am replacing the fi and fl now, the rest of the formatting (italics and such are fine...) Though I have yet to have BD pick up on those properly.

I did flag this back in post #120, guys...

sonnyred · 02-20-2008, 06:29 AM

Has anyone from the UK recieved a reply from Tor Books? I registered a few days ago but have so far got no reply.

astra · 02-20-2008, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonnyred

Has anyone from the UK recieved a reply from Tor Books? I registered a few days ago but have so far got no reply.

The same here.

melmurray · 02-20-2008, 07:12 AM

I got a reply. I'm in Ireland. Maybe you should try an email address that's not geographically specific. That could be the problem. They may not want to distribute too widely for the usual copyright reasons.

Ortep · 02-20-2008, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by melmurray

I got a reply. I'm in Ireland. Maybe you should try an email address that's not geographically specific. That could be the problem. They may not want to distribute too widely for the usual copyright reasons.

I used an address that is very specific located in The Netherlands. I got a reply and and a link to the book

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02-18-2008, 08:51 PM	#137
Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	Yes. Manybooks is usually horrid.

02-19-2008, 04:26 AM	#138
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	Manybooks uses makelrf which was made in the old times of Librie and doesn't do much more than plain text.

02-19-2008, 10:35 AM	#139
Cthulhu Technologist Posts: 488 Karma: 585237 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: I'm between Cities Device: SONY Reader PRS-500	Is it wrong for me to wait for illustrious JSWOLF to format this text for me? ;- Feel a little bad about not relying on self-reliance, but I can't even embed links in a posting

02-19-2008, 10:57 AM	#140
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,798 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I'm still reading and fixing errors due to fi and fl. But it's overall in a pretty good format.

02-20-2008, 06:29 AM	#147
sonnyred Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: laptop	Has anyone from the UK recieved a reply from Tor Books? I registered a few days ago but have so far got no reply.

02-20-2008, 07:12 AM	#149
melmurray Enthusiast Posts: 39 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2007	I got a reply. I'm in Ireland. Maybe you should try an email address that's not geographically specific. That could be the problem. They may not want to distribute too widely for the usual copyright reasons.