Classic Now that Kindle will support Public Libraries lending, is or not an option for you?

[Poppaea]

Originally Posted by jocampo

And being "off topic" for just a second, Kindle 3 surpasses Nook 1st gen. in popularity and acceptance, even Internationally.

Nooks are not sold internationally, so this is rubbish.

[jocampo]

Originally Posted by Poppaea

Nooks are not sold internationally, so this is rubbish.

Not because they can't be sold out of USA, people can't or won't buy it. Check the forums and you'll see lot of users from Europe and Canada trying or buying Nook Colors and Nook 1st gen. devices.

[Rich_D]

Originally, epub was one of the big factors in my buying decision. I've since learned to strip the drm, so conversion is easy. The other factor was feel. I don't like the way the kindle feels. First of all, it is too light for me. It feels too fragile. The nook feels like it has some substance to it I like that. I also don't like the keyboard on front. I don't take notes in books, nor use the dictionary so it would get little use and I don't think I'd like looking at it the whole time. When it comes time to replace my 3g nook, I'll look at what's out there, but as the field stands today, it would be a wifi nook.

[Pomtroll]

Since I already have one (bought last year) I can't vote using any of the options. BUT if I didn't have a Kindle I might consider it. With this new option coming by the end of the year, I have suggested the Kindle to people I know are interested in library use & already buy books from Amazon.

[Asawi]

Nope! Still need/want ePub. I want to read Swedish books as well as English. Number of Swedish Kindle books is - let me think... counting... - zero, zilch, nada, none

I know there are workarounds I could do for ePub books but I also hate the Kindle keyboard.

The Nook Classic does have a poor battery life and is a bit heavy. But that also gives it a "sturdyer" feel, and it feels like better piece of hardware to me. I'm not saying it IS, just that it feels that way to ME! Wish the Nook had better battery life though...

[mnfe]

It's not enough to make me sell my nook and run out and get a Kindle, but it does put it back in the running when it's time to get a new device and weighing all of the features. I don't like the keyboard or the ergonomics on the Kindle, but I do like the battery life. I have to charge my nook WAY too often. I also would prefer something a little lighter. That being said, I'd like to see what's out there at that point. I won't rule it out, but I'd rather not have to convert my entire collection, either.

[nookkatz]

Originally Posted by MsCG1

I am a first gen Nook owner, and I have no desire for a Kindle. Never have, and probably never will. The Nook gave me everything I needed and wanted from the start. Can't imagine at this point, abandoning my Nook and all of my Nook products to jump on the Amazon bandwagon. For what?

Agreed. Before I bought a Nook, I considered a Kindle and talked myself out of buying one several times. When the original Nook became available, it offered what I wanted. In the months that I have owned the Nook, I have been very satisfied with it. I don't like the keyboard on the Kindle. I do like the touchscreen on the Nook. I also like the solid feel of the device, the fact that I can change the battery, and the option to increase the memory with a micro-SD card.

[chas0039]

Actually, if all they are doing is pressuring libraries to add an additional set of ebooks, at additional expense, just because they don't want to support epub, I am now absolutely never again going to consider any Kindle.

My library says they have no plans to spend more money to fix something that is already working just fine. They feel Kindle is the problem, not the epub format. Bravo!

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by chas0039

Actually, if all they are doing is pressuring libraries to add an additional set of ebooks, at additional expense, just because they don't want to support epub, I am now absolutely never again going to consider any Kindle.

Exactly, because all it does is perpetuate fragmentation of the market at the expense of consumers.

[vaughnmr]

Originally Posted by chas0039

Actually, if all they are doing is pressuring libraries to add an additional set of ebooks, at additional expense, just because they don't want to support epub, I am now absolutely never again going to consider any Kindle.

My library says they have no plans to spend more money to fix something that is already working just fine. They feel Kindle is the problem, not the epub format. Bravo!

The addition of Kindle ebooks to Overdrive doesn't cost the libraries anything. If your library uses Overdrive, more than likely they will carry Kindle ebooks.

[jocampo]

Originally Posted by chas0039

Actually, if all they are doing is pressuring libraries to add an additional set of ebooks, at additional expense, just because they don't want to support epub, I am now absolutely never again going to consider any Kindle.

My library says they have no plans to spend more money to fix something that is already working just fine. They feel Kindle is the problem, not the epub format. Bravo!

That is not true, please read the news.

As a matter of fact, there is will be no extra cost on the implementation and exact details of which format will be used has not being showed yet.

The problem is not the Kindle; the Kindle is a nice and good solution, is the bestselling ereader in USA. The main issue is the stupid DRM among companies. A regular novel reads exactly the same in epub or mobi.

[jocampo]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Exactly, because all it does is perpetuate fragmentation of the market at the expense of consumers.

Not agree.

This will benefit Kindle users which are the biggest market in USA. The fragmentation is because each company pulls to their own side, want people to buy books from their own online store; of course, this is about business. Or why do you think that Apple does not want Kindle, Sony or any other ebook seller on iPad market? Not without paying a lot of money or following many strict rules.

The main issue, like I explained on my previous post, is DRM. If Amazon, B&N, or Apple would sell ebooks without DRM protection, people would also stop complaining about formats.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by jocampo

Not agree.

This will benefit Kindle users which are the biggest market in USA. The fragmentation is because each company pulls to their own side, want people to buy books from their own online store; of course, this is about business. Or why do you think that Apple does not want Kindle, Sony or any other ebook seller on iPad market? Not without paying a lot of money or following many strict rules.

The main issue, like I explained on my previous post, is DRM. If Amazon, B&N, or Apple would sell ebooks without DRM protection, people would also stop complaining about formats.

That's all but irrelevant to what I said. It still fragments the market instead of combining it. It further continues to prevent kindle users from purchasing books elsewhere or in other formats. Amazon is only doing it because it will continue that fragmentation. (regardless of drm).

I will say though that if DRM did not exist then it is simple to convert from one format to another.

[jocampo]

Originally Posted by kennyc

That's all but irrelevant to what I said. It still fragments the market instead of combining it. It further prevents kindle users from purchasing books elsewhere or in other formats. Amazon is only doing it because it will continue that fragmentation. (regardless of drm).

I will say though that if DRM did not exist then it is simple to convert from one format to another.

There is not such fragmentation. What we have is competition. That is healthy in a Country like USA. If there are 100 companies that market or sell ereaders, that's good for the consumer, will bring better prices.

The reason why Amazon uses mobi is because when it was in labs (many years ago) was the most common and important ebook format. ePub and B&N or even Sony were not even there. After Amazon hit the market, then the ePub was also implemented. But you don't do retrofit of your product just to satisfy other companies, especially when you have such a successful library like Amazon.

The fact is that the layout and rendering of a regular novel is exactly the same on epub or mobi. There is no benefit of one other the other. Actually, azw has better and higher compression, so the file is smaller.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by jocampo

There is not such fragmentation. What we have is competition. That is healthy in a Country like USA. If there are 100 companies that market or sell ereaders, that's good for the consumer, will bring better prices.

The reason why Amazon uses mobi is because when it was in labs (many years ago) was the most common and important ebook format. ePub and B&N or even Sony were not even there. After Amazon hit the market, then the ePub was also implemented. But you don't do retrofit of your product just to satisfy other companies, especially when you have such a successful library like Amazon.

The fact is that the layout and rendering of a regular novel is exactly the same on epub or mobi. There is no benefit of one other the other. Actually, azw has better and higher compression, so the file is smaller.

You call it competition, I call it fragmentation. There are really only two ebook formats at this point: Amazon's azm/mobi and everyone else's epub. Just like betamax and vhs, just like dvd and blue-ray. Regardless of what you call it, it is not good for the consumer.

Sony retrofitted to epub. Amazon could (and should) too.

Then we truly would have competition. As it is we have fragmentation.