Amazon to launch Library Lending - Page 14

Piper_ · 04-21-2011, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyssa

Uh Oh Piper, you're using logic!

lol It's hard to resist a poke in the ribs when someone changes the goalposts so fast and furious that heads are spinning.

Besides, it would be inconsiderate not to try to help prevent slips and falls from things getting trippy, wouldn't it? :angel:

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

You would think that she knew better

I'm forever the optimist.

One of these days... <imagining heaven on MobileRead - no wars over DRM/Devices/Formats/Companies/Prices... >

DiapDealer · 04-21-2011, 06:06 PM

Logic can't put a dent in dogma.

rogerVA · 04-21-2011, 06:09 PM

I can't find any libraries in my area that lend e-books, so my excitement has died down a bit... hopefully the millions of Kindle users wanting to borrow eBooks might prompt a library in my area to explore that option.

Nyssa · 04-21-2011, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Logic can't put a dent in dogma.

Ain't that the truth!

*Must now go wash my mouth out with soap fingers for using the word "ain't" - twice, even.

Piper_ · 04-21-2011, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyssa

Ain't that the truth!

*Must now go wash my mouth out with soap fingers for using the word "ain't" - twice, even.

Watch out for the Nargles.

/off on my crumple-horned snorkack to exorcise my inner Luna.

Nyssa · 04-21-2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Piper_

Watch out for the Nargles.

/off on my crumple-horned snorkack to exorcise my inner Luna.

I'll keep an eye out for the Quibbler, and see if they mention you!

soondai · 04-21-2011, 06:38 PM

I do dread the ridiculous waiting lists to come in the short term with the Kindle influx, but long-term this should solidify ebook collections at public libraries.

Luckily I have a good decade's backlog of reading (paper and not) to tide me over.

JSWolf · 04-21-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by carld

That seems to be what they're saying. It's been quoted several times that all Overdrive titles will simply be available for checkout as Kindle ebooks.

I'll admit it's a best case scenario, but I'm only going by what's being said by Overdrive itself. It's possible that Overdrive will do as you say and only allow so many copies regardless of format to be loaned out. But, as I said, that isn't how it's set up currently.

Right now, most libraries are buying in ePub and/or PDF. SO in some cases the same eBook with have x copies in ePub and y copies in PDF. The ePub can only be borrowed x times at once and the PDF can be borrowed y times at once. There is no ePub can possibly be borrowed x+y times and the PDF could be borrowed up to x+y times. It would be totally unfair if Kindle users can check out a PDF and get an AZW in return.

JSWolf · 04-21-2011, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by carld

I'm thinking, but don't know, that rather than checking out the ePub file, .azw will become available as a download option. Whether this will result in longer waits for the ePub files, I honestly don't know, but I'm hoping not.

What we are thinking is that the ePub will be changed to give an ePub or an AZW and if that is the case, yes, the wait times will increase dramatically. I highly doubt libraries will suddenly get an additional x copies in AZW to go with the ePub.

carld · 04-21-2011, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

What we are thinking is that the ePub will be changed to give an ePub or an AZW and if that is the case, yes, the wait times will increase dramatically. I highly doubt libraries will suddenly get an additional x copies in AZW to go with the ePub.

In fact we don't know, and we're not all thinking the same thing. The .azw downloads may indeed be additional copies to go with the ePub, we just don't know yet.

Even if wait times do increase, so what? Kindle users have the same right to access their library services as anyone else. If that results in greater wait times, so be it. I'm getting pretty irritated at the implication that it would be better for Kindle users to do without than for ePub users to wait longer.

SCION · 04-21-2011, 06:59 PM

With regard to increased wait times, perhaps the lending period should be reduced to 5 or 7 days. This 21 day thing is too long. I'm sure there are some who "return" their copies early; I do.

JSWolf · 04-21-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RockdaMan

If Amazon pushes library lending over the edge, wouldn't that mean that Sony and BN and Kobo started the whole thing to swaying?

Nope.

JSWolf · 04-21-2011, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SCION

With regard to increased wait times, perhaps the lending period should be reduced to 5 or 7 days. This 21 day thing is too long. I'm sure there are some who "return" their copies early; I do.

I agree. Some libraries only lend for 14 days and I think that's appropriate. But one thing that needs to be done is to have directions clearly shown how to return an ePub early when its done with early.

JSWolf · 04-21-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kali Yuga

5 of the 6 big publishers already have contracts with Overdrive.

Amazon getting into the game doesn't really change much for the publishers. The libraries will still have to pay the ebooks / services via Overdrive.

From a publisher's perspective, it isn't much different than Overdrive offering an iPad app.

That's probably one of the most sensible things said in this thread.

Joonbug1 · 04-21-2011, 07:08 PM

Amazon is brilliant and revolutionary. Sure, it's been done before, but not on a scale this grand. Bravo.

(I think I'm not even being sarcastic, either.)

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04-21-2011, 06:06 PM	#197
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Logic can't put a dent in dogma.

04-21-2011, 06:09 PM	#198
rogerVA Connoisseur Posts: 82 Karma: 68114 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Kindle Paperwhite & Kindle 3	I can't find any libraries in my area that lend e-books, so my excitement has died down a bit... hopefully the millions of Kindle users wanting to borrow eBooks might prompt a library in my area to explore that option.

04-21-2011, 06:38 PM	#202
soondai Guru Posts: 672 Karma: 1109784 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Paperwhite	I do dread the ridiculous waiting lists to come in the short term with the Kindle influx, but long-term this should solidify ebook collections at public libraries. Luckily I have a good decade's backlog of reading (paper and not) to tide me over.

04-21-2011, 06:59 PM	#206
SCION Séduisant Posts: 4,706 Karma: 2107018 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Texas, USA Device: Boox Note Air2+; Kobo Libra2; Kindle Scribe, Oasis3; iPad Mini6	With regard to increased wait times, perhaps the lending period should be reduced to 5 or 7 days. This 21 day thing is too long. I'm sure there are some who "return" their copies early; I do.

04-21-2011, 07:08 PM	#210
Joonbug1 Groupie Posts: 185 Karma: 409000 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: none	Amazon is brilliant and revolutionary. Sure, it's been done before, but not on a scale this grand. Bravo. (I think I'm not even being sarcastic, either.)