Silliness Quiz - Page 175

Shayne Parkinson · 04-13-2011, 03:04 AM

I almost wish that were the right answer, Dreams! It's more interesting than the real one.

No, she didn't escape. And it wasn't really weird. But it had never happened in New Zealand before, and it has never happened since. And probably never will.

Shayne Parkinson · 04-13-2011, 03:17 AM

What might you expect to have happened in 1895 to a person found guilty of murder?

harakiri · 04-13-2011, 03:57 AM

I guess she was executed (hanged?)

so murder, she was a farmer.

Did she hit someone over the head with a shovel and got hanged for that?

dreams · 04-13-2011, 04:06 AM

Clues:

Spoiler:

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Oh, good guess, harakiri! That makes sense that she was probably hanged.

I'm stuck on the "farmer" part. Did she use the murder victim(s) as compost and sold the farm produce or animal meat to the townspeople?

nohmi2 · 04-13-2011, 04:11 AM

The only thing that I can think of in that era that could be called 'íllegal farming' was what was called 'baby farming'.

Desperate single women used to pay for their children (usually illegitimate - horrid word) to be brought up in the country. Sometimes the children were murdered, but the farmer kept getting money.

There was a case in South Africa.

Just a thought.

Shayne Parkinson · 04-13-2011, 04:22 AM

Dreams, you should write a book! Your ideas are marvellous.

Nohmi's right: Minnie Dean was a baby farmer. She was found guilty of murdering a child in her care, and was hanged. She was the only woman ever executed in New Zealand, and as New Zealand hasn't had the death penalty for over fifty years she's likely to keep that distinction.

This was a scandalous case in its day. I refer to the newspaper accounts of it in one of my books.

It's quite possible that Dean was not guilty: infant mortality was high, and it was common (and dangerous) to use laudanum to keep children quiet. The deaths may well have been accidental. But there was little sympathy for baby farmers, whom some people saw as "encouraging sin". And when the judge told the jury (all male in those days) that it would be "weak-kneed" of them to bring a verdict of manslaughter, her fate was sealed.

Miniature hatboxes containing baby dolls were sold outside the courtroom during her trial. Poor taste is not a modern phenomenon.

More on Minnie Dean: http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/biographies/2d7/1

Oh, and congratulations Harakiri! You're right.

dreams · 04-13-2011, 04:59 AM

I never would have guessed baby farmer, as I had never heard of that. That was fun, thanks for the link.

I also found this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnie_Dean
and the referenced song: Dudley Benson's 2006 song "It's Akaroa's Fault" ("I don't want to meet Minnie Dean at the end of my life/If I were to meet her I'd keep her hatbox in sight").: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eua3zqMQXU

Stitchawl · 04-14-2011, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreams

I never would have guessed baby farmer, as I had never heard of that. That was fun, thanks for the link.

New term for me as well, but somewhere in the back of my mind I sort of like the idea of planting babies... Do you know what a 'dibble' is?

Stitchawl

SneakySnake · 04-14-2011, 01:18 AM

Is it some kind of stick?

dreams · 04-14-2011, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stitchawl

New term for me as well, but somewhere in the back of my mind I sort of like the idea of planting babies... Do you know what a 'dibble' is?

Stitchawl

dibble...

a single drop of dribble?

past tense of dabble?

**I just know this is going to be something very common that everyone knows about but me.**

SneakySnake · 04-14-2011, 01:57 AM

I think it maybe a stick that you use to make a hole in the ground before you plant the baby.

harakiri · 04-14-2011, 03:30 AM

can't resist, sorry

dreams · 04-14-2011, 04:59 AM

WT Sharpe · 04-14-2011, 05:00 AM

DIBBLES (verb). What an athlete with a lisp does with a basketball.

GeoffC · 04-14-2011, 05:08 AM

stick for making a hole before planting something

04-13-2011, 04:06 AM	#2614
dreams It's about the umbrella Posts: 25,110 Karma: 56250158 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Sony 505\| K Fire \| KK 3G+Wi-Fi \| iPhone 3Gs \|Vista 32-bit Hm Prem w/FF	Clues: Spoiler: only New Zealand woman with this particular reason for fame she lived in the 19th century criminal matters were involved More shocking than stealing It did involve killing (but not eating!), but not of her husband. No, it wasn't anyone related to her. And no gang was involved, just Minnie. Clue, for what it's worth: she was a farmer. A rather specialised sort of farmer. This was a murder case, with some interesting (and tragic) details. It's what happened afterwards that makes it unique. No, she didn't escape. And it wasn't really weird. But it had never happened in New Zealand before, and it has never happened since. And probably never will. What might you expect to have happened in 1895 to a person found guilty of murder? ---------------------- Oh, good guess, harakiri! That makes sense that she was probably hanged. I'm stuck on the "farmer" part. Did she use the murder victim(s) as compost and sold the farm produce or animal meat to the townspeople?

04-13-2011, 04:22 AM	#2616
Shayne Parkinson Author Posts: 1,532 Karma: 5447804 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New Zealand Device: Samsung Galaxy Tab	Dreams, you should write a book! Your ideas are marvellous. Nohmi's right: Minnie Dean was a baby farmer. She was found guilty of murdering a child in her care, and was hanged. She was the only woman ever executed in New Zealand, and as New Zealand hasn't had the death penalty for over fifty years she's likely to keep that distinction. This was a scandalous case in its day. I refer to the newspaper accounts of it in one of my books. It's quite possible that Dean was not guilty: infant mortality was high, and it was common (and dangerous) to use laudanum to keep children quiet. The deaths may well have been accidental. But there was little sympathy for baby farmers, whom some people saw as "encouraging sin". And when the judge told the jury (all male in those days) that it would be "weak-kneed" of them to bring a verdict of manslaughter, her fate was sealed. Miniature hatboxes containing baby dolls were sold outside the courtroom during her trial. Poor taste is not a modern phenomenon. More on Minnie Dean: http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/biographies/2d7/1 Oh, and congratulations Harakiri! You're right. Last edited by Shayne Parkinson; 04-13-2011 at 04:27 AM.

04-14-2011, 03:30 AM	#2622
harakiri Groupie Posts: 174 Karma: 464618 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Germany Device: Kindle Oasis 2	can't resist, sorry Attached Thumbnails

04-14-2011, 05:00 AM	#2624
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,072 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	DIBBLES (verb). What an athlete with a lisp does with a basketball. Last edited by WT Sharpe; 04-14-2011 at 05:03 AM.

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04-13-2011, 03:04 AM	#2611
Shayne Parkinson Author Posts: 1,532 Karma: 5447804 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New Zealand Device: Samsung Galaxy Tab	I almost wish that were the right answer, Dreams! It's more interesting than the real one. No, she didn't escape. And it wasn't really weird. But it had never happened in New Zealand before, and it has never happened since. And probably never will.

04-13-2011, 03:17 AM	#2612
Shayne Parkinson Author Posts: 1,532 Karma: 5447804 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New Zealand Device: Samsung Galaxy Tab	What might you expect to have happened in 1895 to a person found guilty of murder?

04-13-2011, 03:57 AM	#2613
harakiri Groupie Posts: 174 Karma: 464618 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Germany Device: Kindle Oasis 2	I guess she was executed (hanged?) so murder, she was a farmer. Did she hit someone over the head with a shovel and got hanged for that?

04-13-2011, 04:11 AM	#2615
nohmi2 Pensively observing. Posts: 1,758 Karma: 12675456 Join Date: Jun 2008 Device: Varied.	The only thing that I can think of in that era that could be called 'íllegal farming' was what was called 'baby farming'. Desperate single women used to pay for their children (usually illegitimate - horrid word) to be brought up in the country. Sometimes the children were murdered, but the farmer kept getting money. There was a case in South Africa. Just a thought.

04-13-2011, 04:59 AM	#2617
dreams It's about the umbrella Posts: 25,110 Karma: 56250158 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Sony 505\| K Fire \| KK 3G+Wi-Fi \| iPhone 3Gs \|Vista 32-bit Hm Prem w/FF	I never would have guessed baby farmer, as I had never heard of that. That was fun, thanks for the link. I also found this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnie_Dean and the referenced song: Dudley Benson's 2006 song "It's Akaroa's Fault" ("I don't want to meet Minnie Dean at the end of my life/If I were to meet her I'd keep her hatbox in sight").: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eua3zqMQXU

04-14-2011, 01:18 AM	#2619
SneakySnake I'm watching you! Posts: 6,113 Karma: 22344652 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny Coast Qld, OZ Device: Sony PRS-900(unused lately) iPadAir2, want me Kindle Oasis	Is it some kind of stick?

04-14-2011, 01:57 AM	#2621
SneakySnake I'm watching you! Posts: 6,113 Karma: 22344652 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny Coast Qld, OZ Device: Sony PRS-900(unused lately) iPadAir2, want me Kindle Oasis	I think it maybe a stick that you use to make a hole in the ground before you plant the baby.

04-14-2011, 04:59 AM	#2623
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04-14-2011, 05:08 AM	#2625
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	stick for making a hole before planting something