Whats on your plate?

[SolRaven]

I grilled rib-eye for dinner last night. It was the first test I gave my grill with true flare-ups. It passed amazingly well. I'll have to see how well it passes after I've grilled 20 rib-eyes and before I clean it.

[phenomshel]

Originally Posted by BenG

Chicken and dumplings tonight.
I didn't roll out the dumplings. I just dropped spoonfuls of biscuit dough into the stew.

But those are the best kind!

[kindlekitten]

Originally Posted by phenomshel

But those are the best kind!

I thought that was HOW dumplings were supposed to be!?

for lunch, leftover home made schintzel with ziguener sauce, hot german potato salad and green beans

[beppe]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

I thought that was HOW dumplings were supposed to be!?

Dumplings


from wikipedia

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[SameOldStory]

I don't really want to start another poll, so I'll ask for comments from the people on this thread.

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Chicago school bans some lunches brought from home

"At his public school, Little Village Academy on Chicago's West Side, students are not allowed to pack lunches from home. Unless they have a medical excuse, they must eat the food served in the cafeteria."

"Principal Elsa Carmona said her intention is to protect students from their own unhealthful food choices."

Comments? Good? Bad?

When I was between eight and sixteen I would nibble on celery, carrots, tomatoes, and cucumber as I watched TV. It had absolutely nothing to do with health. I just liked gnawing on them.

Many years later I ate any junk food that was within reach. Obviously my earlier inclination towards munching on veggies didn't carry over into my so-called "adult" life. After I hit my forties I went back to eating a fair amount of vegetables with my meals, but never just gnawing on a carrot. Then again, I don't watch TV anymore. Connection? Dono.

So Principal Elsa wants to instill good eating habits in children. I don't think that it'll have much lasting effect.


For whatever it's worth, we were so poor that we took baloney sandwiches to school for lunch. I hated milk so I kept my milk money. A whole three cents per day!

[phenomshel]

Originally Posted by SameOldStory

I don't really want to start another poll, so I'll ask for comments from the people on this thread.

NEWS ITEM
Chicago school bans some lunches brought from home

"At his public school, Little Village Academy on Chicago's West Side, students are not allowed to pack lunches from home. Unless they have a medical excuse, they must eat the food served in the cafeteria."

"Principal Elsa Carmona said her intention is to protect students from their own unhealthful food choices."

Comments? Good? Bad?

When I was between eight and sixteen I would nibble on celery, carrots, tomatoes, and cucumber as I watched TV. It had absolutely nothing to do with health. I just liked gnawing on them.

Many years later I ate any junk food that was within reach. Obviously my earlier inclination towards munching on veggies didn't carry over into my so-called "adult" life. After I hit my forties I went back to eating a fair amount of vegetables with my meals, but never just gnawing on a carrot. Then again, I don't watch TV anymore. Connection? Dono.

So Principal Elsa wants to instill good eating habits in children. I don't think that it'll have much lasting effect.


For whatever it's worth, we were so poor that we took baloney sandwiches to school for lunch. I hated milk so I kept my milk money. A whole three cents per day!

ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you need more?
I hate this kind of thing. This is not, nor should it be, a Nanny state. If the kids aren't old enough to pack their own lunches, then it's their parent's poor food choices, not the kids'. If the kids ARE old enough to pack their own lunches, it's STILL not the principal's job to police their food choices. It is also not the government's job to tell McDonald's what they can and cannot cook their french fries in, what they can serve with Happy Meals, and whether or not they can put toys in Happy Meals. No one is forcing us to buy McDonald's food. What we put into our bodies as adults should be our choice, and ours alone. If they are bad choices, then we pay for them down the line.
I've heard all the "reasoning". It's so much better for you. It saves money on health care. I'm not buying it. What I eat is MY choice, and mine alone. You can have my diet dr. pepper and cheeseburger when you pry them from my cold, dead, hands.
DISCLAIMER:
This is my opinion; and I don't care to be argued with about it. If you want to argue with someone, pick someone else. I will ignore it.

[SolRaven]

Originally Posted by SameOldStory

When I was between eight and sixteen I would nibble on celery, carrots, tomatoes, and cucumber as I watched TV. It had absolutely nothing to do with health. I just liked gnawing on them.

Many years later I ate any junk food that was within reach. Obviously my earlier inclination towards munching on veggies didn't carry over into my so-called "adult" life. After I hit my forties I went back to eating a fair amount of vegetables with my meals, but never just gnawing on a carrot. Then again, I don't watch TV anymore. Connection? Dono.

So Principal Elsa wants to instill good eating habits in children. I don't think that it'll have much lasting effect.

I grew up the same way and although I'll buy stuff that my mother never bought, I think the lasting effect is that, if I have a bowl of carrots, or celery while watching TV, I enjoy it just as much, or maybe more than if I had chips and dip. I think if you grew up eating crap and then had a bowl of carrots, you might feel deprived and like your dieting than it remind you of something you did in your childhood.

[beppe]

Here, preschool schools give lunch. You can take your children home and feed them what you/they prefer. the menu are approved by a local regional office. It is so good and healthy. Daughter eats always everything. For me is such a relief to know that she has 5 healthy meals. Thanks Region Lombardy.

Apparently there is something called SAD, standard American diet whose impact on obesity, cardiovascular diseases, diabetes and an other ailment is sometime mentioned.

[The Terminator]

Well I just made some cheese sticks with pepperoni inside (quartered pepperoni, sliced lengthwise) and they taste better than the S.A.D (Beppe) ones at the store (really cheap pepperoni in the store ones.)

[SolRaven]

I'm thinking about grilling some veggies tonight. I wonder what zucchini tastes like grilled. Hmmmm....

[SameOldStory]

There can be little doubt that some foods are better than others. But, only in a general way.

For a person with high blood pressure too much salt can shorten their lives. People with some forms of arthritis are better off avoiding meat. You can find a thousand and one examples of why someone should or should not eat any single food item. However we simply vary too much to say any one thing is categorically bad for everyone.

I'm more than a little over weight (Go ahead say it - FATSO). But my cholesterol and blood pressure has always been low. Pulse is normally around 65.

I have some good eating habits, but others that might kill anyone else. I LOVE a bucket of fried chicken.

There have been diet/health conscious celebrities such as Adelle Davis, and others, dropping left and right over the decades from cancer and other causes for which a healthy diet was supposed to offer protection. Even marathon runners have died from heat attacks.

If I had children in school, I'd rather that they eat healthy. But it is I who would be the one pulling the pop-tarts out of their bags. I wouldn't force others into a particular diet regime because I thought it best for them.

After all, it didn't work for me, and I was already predisposed to snack on veggies as a child.


End note

I had meatloaf and scalloped potatoes for dinner.

[SolRaven]

Originally Posted by SameOldStory

There can be little doubt that some foods are better than others. But, only in a general way.

For a person with high blood pressure too much salt can shorten their lives. People with some forms of arthritis are better off avoiding meat....

That's interesting. Arthritis runs in my family and I started having a tiny bit of it when I was 24 y/o. At 32, I started the Atkins diet, which is rich in meat and fats and low in carbs. One of the side effects was any sign of arthritis went away. Now a days, I know I've eaten too many carbs when my knuckles start hurting.

I'm more than a little over weight (Go ahead say it - FATSO). But my cholesterol and blood pressure has always been low. Pulse is normally around 65.

I have some good eating habits, but others that might kill anyone else. I LOVE a bucket of fried chicken.

Although you may be over weight, you sound like you're very healthy. My guess would be that your fat is surface fat, which although more jiggly, does no harm to your internal organs and general health. If your belly sticks out and is hard to the touch, that's when you need to worry. That means that the excess fat is surrounding your organs.

The running articles were really interesting. Jim Fixx's story is quite curious. I'd love to know what his diet was. Considering the year, my guess it that he was eating low fat, which is also when Americans started getting fat. Coincidence? Or Consequence?

[bjones6416]

I just finished a tomato sandwich on whole wheat (made in my bread machine), and some cauliflower which I steamed and cooled, then mixed with some mayo and salt and pepper. Kind of like potato salad but better.

I've been researching mayonnaise. It pretty much meets my criteria of "food" in that it doesn't have a laundry list of unrecognizeable ingredients (I eat Duke's mayo.) Sure, it's mostly fat, but very little saturated fat, and many vegetables are absorbed better when accompanied by fat. The low-fat/non-fat mayos? They have a bunch of extra non-food additives in them. I've thought about making my own -- my grandmother used to -- but the egg safety issue around here holds me back, and I'm too lazy to go through the process of "pastuerizing" them myself. So I'll continue to eat my regular Duke's while keeping track of how many calories it adds to the meal. Anybody have thoughts on the mayo issue?

[phenomshel]

Originally Posted by bjones6416

I just finished a tomato sandwich on whole wheat (made in my bread machine), and some cauliflower which I steamed and cooled, then mixed with some mayo and salt and pepper. Kind of like potato salad but better.

I've been researching mayonnaise. It pretty much meets my criteria of "food" in that it doesn't have a laundry list of unrecognizeable ingredients (I eat Duke's mayo.) Sure, it's mostly fat, but very little saturated fat, and many vegetables are absorbed better when accompanied by fat. The low-fat/non-fat mayos? They have a bunch of extra non-food additives in them. I've thought about making my own -- my grandmother used to -- but the egg safety issue around here holds me back, and I'm too lazy to go through the process of "pastuerizing" them myself. So I'll continue to eat my regular Duke's while keeping track of how many calories it adds to the meal. Anybody have thoughts on the mayo issue?

Well, I guess I eat a fair amount of mayo if you count what's in my ranch dressing recipe. I did try making it but could never get it to emulsify. I use Helmann's. I have been thinking about subbing low fat yogurt for part of the mayo if I am making salads or dressings though.

[kindlekitten]

Originally Posted by bjones6416

I just finished a tomato sandwich on whole wheat (made in my bread machine), and some cauliflower which I steamed and cooled, then mixed with some mayo and salt and pepper. Kind of like potato salad but better.

I've been researching mayonnaise. It pretty much meets my criteria of "food" in that it doesn't have a laundry list of unrecognizeable ingredients (I eat Duke's mayo.) Sure, it's mostly fat, but very little saturated fat, and many vegetables are absorbed better when accompanied by fat. The low-fat/non-fat mayos? They have a bunch of extra non-food additives in them. I've thought about making my own -- my grandmother used to -- but the egg safety issue around here holds me back, and I'm too lazy to go through the process of "pastuerizing" them myself. So I'll continue to eat my regular Duke's while keeping track of how many calories it adds to the meal. Anybody have thoughts on the mayo issue?

the little batch you will be making with the smallest recipe should not go bad very quickly. make sure you keep it covered and in the fridge. I've kept home made mayo for up to 4 days

Originally Posted by phenomshel

Well, I guess I eat a fair amount of mayo if you count what's in my ranch dressing recipe. I did try making it but could never get it to emulsify. I use Helmann's. I have been thinking about subbing low fat yogurt for part of the mayo if I am making salads or dressings though.

I'm transitioning to more and more yogurt from mayo and sour cream as well